anti-gun Austrailia - 6 lives saved by a WOMAN WITH A GUN

It’s a bad tv script isn’t it? I mean there are more holes than a used Mozzie net.

 

OF COURSE they won't. But no law has to be 100% effective. We have laws against murder and punishment by death for doing so and guess what, people still commit murder. So unless you're going to hold all laws to the same standard, let's not criticize.

 

what you want to do is criminalize currently harmless and legal actions and pretend that will stop those who already engage in malum per se transgressions.

 

you and other leftists see lawfully owned gun owners as part of the problem and that problem is not crime but rather how they vote

 

yep it's true

 

Precisely how did I prove your point?

Hint. Someone who is not in my shoes and does not have my experience or likely any experience with firearms, is not likely to possess any useful information. When I want useful information, I go to someone who knows what he is talking about. It is unlikely that someone on the left who has little to no experience with firearms will be able to provide anything useful.

 

Nope, sorry.

 

Nope, you guys are the liars.

 

what have pro gun advocates lied about. The gun banners constantly lie when they say their main motivation is decreasing violent crime. we know they have lied-the Hughes Amendment alone is proof of that

 

can you name any gun banner who is a conservative?

 

That you care about public safety, and yes the main motivation is decreasing violent crime.

 

Why?

 

we know that disarming honest people doesn't increase public safety. and we know that left wing gun control advocates are all about harassing people who don't buy into their leftist schemes

 

because if gun banning was actually crime control, it would have widespread support. IT DOES NOT.

 

There is one major flaw in your argument and that of most people on the left. They cite statistics based on existing conditions and then try to use those same statistics for situations which are totally different.

It all comes down to some very simple facts for which there are no statistics. There are over 430 million guns in the US. Some law abiding people will give them up and there are some previously law abiding people who will not. I don't expect those who do not obey the law to give theirs up at all.

I look at my own situation. I live out in the country and if I wanted to hide my weapons, I doubt that law enforcement would ever find them. Likely upward of 50 to 100 million people in the US own or have family members who own around 430 million weapons. It will take decades to make it safe for weaponless law abiding citizens. Those same citizens who have done nothing wrong, but who are being punished for the crimes of others. But that is the left's way. Punish the law abiding for the crimes of the criminals.

 

that is the real goal of the leaders of the leftwing anti gun movement. they pretend its about public safety but it's all about a cultural loathing of the pro gun mindset and because the gun banners see gun owners as opposed to their collectivist agenda

 

I keep saying

YOU DONT NEED TO GIVE THEM UP!

 

Oh! Bunkum!
Just because we don’t live in a Walter Mitty world of fantasies fuelled by watching too many badly scripted TV shows

 

Agin no research just “feelings”

 

we can prove it easily. start with the Hughes Amendment for starters

 

can you name any conservative groups who have adopted gun bans as crime control? Not all left-wingers are gun banners but just about every gun banner is a left-winger

 

Because you guys will not tolerate even the most miniscule inconvenience in your lust to get guns.

 

At the mall?

 

I read it, sorry no dice.

 

see, when you start talking about lawful gun owners having lusts for guns-it proves you have a cultural hatred of gun ownership-not criminals. thanks for proving what I already knew