anti-gun Austrailia - 6 lives saved by a WOMAN WITH A GUN

And yet somehow a proportion of American have become embedded with the fantasy that all they have to do is wave around some tiny handgun they barely know what to do with and the guy with the AK 47 and armoured vest will just throw his weapon to the ground and give up.

yeah! Right!


In reality nearly twice as many active shooters were stopped by unarmed bystanders as armed bystanders

 

I have been asking about that for ages. Why don't gun owners need to get insurance to help pay for damages done by stolen or mishandled guns? I rarely see that proposed.

 

Not only is it harder but if you are caught with an illegal gun it is jail time so crims don’t like having guns around

 

Because America has a special law apparently that absolves anyone of civil liability - a law written to protect gun manufacturers so even if you buy a gun which explodes in your face you cannot sue

 

well that won't work in a left wing controlled country where thugs are let out in a revolving door cash free bail system with literally like 99.9% of them repeat offenders.
As I've always said, the stricter the punishment, the less the crimes happen (your little blue buddies on the left want to pretend this isn't the case though)

 

Permissive firearm laws = more firearms = more firearm fatalities. No surprise there.

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In the first half of 2023, the United States had experienced about 21,000 gun homicides among a population of 335 million, compared to 225 murders among 26.4 million in Australia and about 200 killings among 67.7 million in the U.K.

“The U.S. is experiencing more than 10 times higher death rates from gun violence than Australia and more than 40 times higher death rates than the U.K.,” said researcher Dr. Charles Hennekens, a professor with the Florida Atlantic University Schmidt College of Medicine in Boca Raton.

What is different between the three countries is the number of firearms freely available, his team noted.

There are about 393 million guns owned in the United States among a population of 335 million – about 1.2 guns per person.

By comparison, there are 3.5 million guns among a population of 26.4 million people in Australia, or about one gun for every 10 people. This is likely the result of new gun laws passed between 1996 and 2021, the researchers said.

The U.K. also has passed extensive gun control laws, including a 2022 ban on assault weapons and handguns...

They found that the rate of gun-related deaths is more than six times higher than the difference in mental illness between states.

The rate of firearm-related deaths is 10 times higher in the state with the most deaths, Mississippi (nearly 34 deaths per 100,000 residents), compared to the state with the fewest deaths, Massachusetts (fewer than 4 deaths per 100,000).

Massachusetts also has the lowest rates of gun ownership in the nation, thanks to strong gun control laws and a ban on assault weapons, the researchers noted.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...e-of-u-s-gun-deaths-international-study-finds
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Another American telling us that we're going to turn into a German holocaust state - or something worse, possibly with zombies, unless we adopt their gun laws that kill innumerably more people right now. Hilarious!

 

We have many lawful gun owners as well. Happy with our guns. It's the type of gun and gun culture that we don't want.

Personally, that is not to say that I don't appreciate differences within the US and accept, perhaps a little begrudgingly that's just how it is there.

 

I may have missed that conversation.

 

his quote was in my comment-it appears no longer to be around though

 

So all of those people were forcibly injected with drugs?

 

no more than all those deaths from gunshot suicide that gun banners count in gun deaths

 

Really??? That is insane.

 

Yes it is insane and untrue. They are protected from lawsuits due to the gun being used in the manner it was intended... to shoot things. They are not protected from a defect that causes injury. For God's sake, this is searchable with Google.

 

Seems hard to change. When in the US you have such frequent attacks with guns, people want more guns to protect themselves, which means even more guns in the society, which means even more frequent attacks with guns.

It's much easier for those of us rarely if ever having gun violence in our areas to not feel we need guns to protect ourselves.

 

That makes more sense.

But how about my question: why do we rarely hear calls for mandatory gun insurance paying in to help cover damages from stolen or mishandled guns. It may encourage people to better store and handle the weapons.

 

The firearm-dependent arguing for the lax policies of the U.S. that facilitate ten times the number of firearm fatalities per capita compared to Australia end up appearing very foolish, given the empirical reality.

 

Yes, exactly. It's a vicious cycle. I wish more could see that...

 

Typical pro gun response “nothing will work so why do anything”

 

I usually do check but it was late at night. This is what I was thinking of

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/other-laws-policies/gun-industry-immunity/

 

You mean the preventable deaths? The ones that are mostly middle aged white men?

 

what sort of law is going to prevent suicide? the death penalty?

 

Left wing response-the patient has a head wound=let's put a tourniquet around his neck since that's better than doing nothing

 

Wow! Easy Peasy! Gun securement and no “substitution effect” does not come into play

 

what if the owner of the gun is the one who commits suicide. You correctly noted it's mainly middle aged men. In most households, that person would be the gun owner