The Looming Ukraine Debacle

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  1. conservaliberal

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    Interesting. I remember two years ago, the headline news was that Vlad had some kind of cancer that was going to kill him by the end of 2022. Well? That rumor disappeared later like a fart in a 50 mph breeze....

    Oh, but the "sanctions" were going to humble him, right? If you look at Russia's economy, and the value of its currency today, you do not come to that conclusion... right?

    Well, next, our Ukrainian proxy-army was going to defeat him on the ground. But, instead, the Russians have been making slow, but consistent gains on the ground.

    Look... I don't like Putin, but I suggest that nothing (NOTHING) is to be gained by underestimating an experienced, seasoned, intelligent adversary. And that, people, is what Vladimir Putin actually is! Love him or hate him, don't underestimate him, or he'll 'chessmaster' us every time. And that's especially true with a bunch of naive Democrat morons running our country today!
     
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    This is coming from the same side that told us that the "chessmaster" was going to win in a few months. You are overestimating the fascist.
     
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    What happened to the 3 day op?...or "they will welcome me with flowers and champagne"?
     
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  4. Bill Carson

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    Too bad :laughing: Banderastan's head terrorist nazi apparently done got blown up. That coupled with the mass surrenders of other nazis....azov and right sektor folks. What will zelenskystein do? :above: May as well send more meat to make the sausage :tombstone:

    :bored:


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5RzBs8kpjcc

    Now what was it Budanov was saying about Putin? :-D

     
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    The Hindustan Times... lol

    That's about the most legitimate-seeming "news" outlet the naZis can find to publish their lies in English, and of course you dutifully post that rot here.

    Why didn't you answer my question, Bill? Why do you support regimes that censor speech, the media and even social media to prevent criticism of the fascist regime in Moscow? Why do you live in the freest country on earth and pretend to love fascist Russia and Communist China? You must love Iran too, since they're so buddy-buddy with the Kremlin these days.

    I guess that's why you won't answer. You know it's absurdly hypocritical and conflicted of you, and you would prefer that readers of your posts don't think about that. Or think about anything at all, for that matter.
     
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    Here is some real news from Ukraine:

    Update from Ukraine | The most Expensive radar was Kaputted | Ruzzian attack ambushed


    :)
     
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    Look at ol D, nothing better to do than to try to deflect and flame bait. Seems to be Modus Operandi Numero Uno for the azov Cheer Team.

    Speaking of speech censorship, I guess you are A-OK with the old praying grandma that was convicted of 4 crimes for merely being at the Jan 6 protest? Way to go....speech hero. :cheerleader:

    BTW, when is slava zelenskystein gonna allow political opposition parties again? Elections again? Media other than what he partly owns? Freedom of religion again? Quit killing Americans that exercised speech critical of him?

    Oh yeah D, you stepped in a heaping pile.

    Best go to some Denys propaganda....he needs the views for fool-generated revenues.
     
  8. Durandal

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    You could try aiming higher.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This guy is Hilarious D LOL :) The comedy show not worth much in terms of good war commentary .. but a funny fellow for sure :)
     
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    Moscow factory that produces Avangard missiles is on fire today..."Bill"....big fire!

    Dzhankoi airfield in Krym was hit yesterday "Bill" where Zircons were getting ready for flight.

    100-150 orcs KIA....100+ injured(meaning body parts missing)?

    Numerous Zircons destroyed.

    Thoughts "Bill"?
     
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    He's got a huge following gifty...speaks the truth...makes good $$$ on YT.....

    Maybe you could start a YT channel gifter...can't say what the subscribers or viewers would be....but might be a step up !

    :laughing:
     
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    If you were an honest broker rather than a Z shill, you would not say such things about him. He is objective when it comes to the facts even if he has a personal bias as a Ukrainian himself.
     
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    Zoomer -- you have done it again ?! having a following and making money on YT doesn't mean one is speaking the Truth mate .. Kim Kardashian and friends proof of that for all to see see ! :)

    Now never mind the comedy .. and try to focus on topic .. "Looming Ukraine Debacle" .. which it could be argued is not so looming no more. Did the comedy guy .. or any other of your down home sources .. tell you about the big uptick in surrenders .. main reason is they can't get arms and support no more .. end up getting encircled .. trapped .. have to put up the white flag. OH .. and how about that Azov Battalion refusing to fight .. don't want to pointlessly sacrifice themselves to the meat grinder.

    Look what Politico has to say --- Just like the Prophet told you

    Ukraine is heading for defeat

    The West's failure to send weapons to Kyiv is helping Putin win his war.

    "Just ask a Ukrainian soldier if he still believes the West will stand by Kyiv “for as long as it takes.” That pledge rings hollow when it’s been four weeks since your artillery unit last had a shell to fire, as one serviceman complained from the front lines"

    https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraine-losing-russia-war/

    Prophet told you how many times Zoomie -- Biden - USA always gonna abandon the JV-Team .. Ukraine Running out of Ammo ..

    How you gonna fight an artillery battle - Trench warfare - when its been 4 weeks since your artillery unit last had a shell to fire ? How are you going to face the massive Russian War machine .. with both hands tied behind back .. not allowed to attack the Russian Homeland to begin with .. and now no artillery shells on the front line ..

    Biden left those boys out for the Slaughter .. Russia now in near full control of the skies .. Plenty of Troops .. plenty of Ammo .. artillery 10,000 rounds on a slow day.. pounding the Ukrainian side .. drones .. missiles .. and have really ramped up the use of the Fabulous 500s 1500's .. and now they are starting to throw in the occasional FAB - 3000. That's kilo's not pounds friend.

    " Morale among troops is grim, ground down by relentless bombardment, a lack of advanced weapons, and losses on the battlefield. In cities hundreds of miles away from the front, the crowds of young men who lined up to join the army in the war’s early months have disappeared. Nowadays, eligible would-be recruits dodge the draft and spend their afternoons in nightclubs instead. Many have left the country altogether"

    and now we hear even the Azov Battalion doesn't want to fight. .. Told you Zoomer .. out of ammo, out of human capital, and no knight in shining armor coming to the rescue .. Genocide Joe has better things to do.
     
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    I call a spade a spade and a clown a clown Durandal .. and how could I have any respect for the claim of objectivity from someone who claims there is no propaganda in Western Media-Political Pundits. Sorry friend .. but your Spidey senses have been weighed , measured, and found non existent by such comment. "no propaganda in the west" .. Yeaaaaahhhhhhh NO :)
     
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    That's great Zoomer .. got some more truth for you -- (same article linked to before) "An estimated 650,000 men of fighting age have fled their country, most by smuggling themselves across the border. Two years ago, the trains heading out of Ukraine were almost exclusively carrying women, children and the elderly to seek refuge. This week, around a third of the passengers on one train carrying this correspondent out of the country were men of fighting age. Somehow they’d managed to get waiver papers to leave."

    Don't sound like the rah rah cis boom bah comedy guy that our friend D linked to .. need to have comedy guy's "Truth-O-Meter" checked aye Zoomer :) Har Har Har.
     
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    Politico isn't exactly a source for accurate info ....gifty. Try other sources maybe.

    He does speak the truth gifty....even RDK has jumped on the bandwagon....Belgorod got busted up again the other day....Dwarfstan looking ridiculous....can't get rid of these dudes.....gifty...:grin::-D
     
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    Sounds like I made you uncomfortable ...gifty, why's that?

    Denys vids make you uncomfortable....I should post Starskys,Arturs,Vlad Vexler,Anna, Konstantin, Jake Broe vids too....

    Heyyy...btw, I personally spoken to a couple of UTubers, we might even meet in Germany one of these days, for beers and dinner....:). I'll let you know how it went:).


    Yes, and 6-7 mln RuZzkis have fled....Vova is trying to trick migrants into fighting in Ukraine...and recruiting female prison convicts...gifter:).
     
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  18. conservaliberal

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    No, Yardy, I never said that Russia was going to win the war "in a few months". What I DID say, and what IS true is that because of the very obvious logistics involved, a Russian win is inevitable. Hint: It's a little over 500 miles from Moscow to Kiev... all of which are on roadways. Next, it's almost 5,000 miles from Washington D. C. to Kiev... and involves crossing the Atlantic Ocean.

    I know that in our wonderous, whiz-bang 21st-century it seems so 'old-school' to have to think about getting large numbers of people and large amounts of 'stuff' from Point A to Point B, but logistics are crucially important.

    Afterthought: The guy running the show for Putin since January, 2023 is Commander of the Joint Group of Forces, General Valery Gerasimov (the creator of what's known as the "Gerasimov Doctrine"). This article produced by the Center for European Policy Analysis, although biased to a degree, is worth a read: https://cepa.org/comprehensive-reports/the-evolution-of-russian-hybrid-warfare-executive-summary/
     
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    Oh Zoom .. the source is totally a pro Ukraine source Zoomie .. and thus any inaccuracy would be in downplaying how bad the situation is for Ukraine.
    I know the truth is one you can not bear old friend .. but you must be strong .. and deal with reality .. not drift into fantasy and denial.

    Here is another for you Zoomer .. Genocide Joe's own intelligence Chiefs -- downplaying how bad the situation really is :)

    US Intelligence Chiefs Deliver Grim Warning on Ukraine
    https://www.voanews.com/a/us-intelligence-chiefs-deliver-grim-warning-for-ukraine/7523825.html
     
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    Zoomer .. you are confusing delusion for reality again .. focusing on personal invective rather than the Ukraine disaster ... demonizing the messenger because the message makes you very uncomfortable .. then trying to project your fears onto others. Now look here Zoomer --

    These smart lads are fleeing the country Zoomer --- they don't wanna give up their lives for a hopeless lost cause .. Even the Azov Nazi factions are refusing to fight.
     
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    I'd imagine the swastika tattoo removal business is a hoppin right now in ukie land:D
     
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    No to gifty....

    French troops are rolling into Ukraine....not if but when....not looking good for the orcs if they do....Pete speaks the truth....:).



    https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/31255
     
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    Yep, French troops, American aid and Norwegian F-16s are all on the way, based on current reporting.
     
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    Basically...once French troops are installed....quite possibly along Belarus border, that'll free up more UAF members, for the East.

    I'll hazard the next guess....once French troops are in....they won't leave....until Ukraine is in NATO.

    That might spell the "death" of Pootlerstan.....once Ukraine is NATO member.

    I suspect Pootlerstan will try target these troops....or who knows, since that's an escalation with a nuclear power also.

    This is a foot in the door for other NATO members to follow suit.
     
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    It's a bit worse than that: does 'Ukraine' mean within the borders of Ukraine
    before Victoria Nuland (the cookie monster) deposed the government, or
    a few months later after Crimea had left, or right now?


    The main trouble makers are in Western Ukraine, where Right Sector and
    other Nazi groups were and mainly still are, these are now within the Azov
    umbrella organization I understand.

    So I tend to refer to Ukraine as Western and Central Ukraine as the part
    Zelensky runs, and Eastern and Southern Ukraine as the parts that have
    escaped into Russia.
     

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