What is the primary reason you support Biden?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Wow! Jack! Even though he is know for environmental protection?
     
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    What do you dislike about Trump?
     
  3. Endeavor

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    I don’t disagree with most of what you have said about American democracy. Most modern democracy are parliamentarian democracy with many choices. But are the better democracy then American? Just because citizen has more choices, does that make a better government? We don’t need to look to far to see that having multipole choices doesn’t make all that great. Israel is a parliamentarian system yet past 25 years one party dominated Israeli government. Even though 60% Israelis don’t want Bibi N, he is the PM.

    In life, we make choices every day which are not perfect. We chose what is in front us and not what we desire.

    This November we have two choice ; Biden and the guy who wants to be dictator.
     
  4. Endeavor

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    Just because I want two political party does not mean I want people who deny election result to win election.

    Your party nominated a guy who says he wants to be “ dictator for one day”, and his lawyer arguing in front SCOTUS that POTUS can break any law he wants. Is that the kind of person I want to win election just because I want two political party ? Hell no.
     
  5. JohnHamilton

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    You blind hatred of Trump is well documented. Don’t worry. I won’t become confused about where you stand.
     
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  6. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    So you are ok with POTUS breaks any law he wants?

    I am sorry, I would rather have one political party then a guy who says “ I am above the law”.
     
  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'd rather have good judges, a better economy, less wars and an absence of a president who is a pawn for anti American Globalists
     
  8. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever asked why we’re going to have an election between two disliked and unwanted candidates to become the next president? Most Americans are dreading this rematch. From the article and poll below - The 2024 presidential election is a rematch between one man widely seen as too old for the job and another man widely seen as too dangerous. The prospect has left much of the country feeling both paralyzed and horrified. Call it the Dread Election.

    https://time.com/6883103/the-dread-election/

    That doesn’t cover the overall very poor job most Americans think Biden has done; Biden’s overall job approval is at 40% disapproval at 56%. Nor does it cover Trump’s legal problems which should sink him, but so far hasn’t. I’m sure folks get tired of me saying this, but most Americans don’t want this rematch. There’s little to no enthusiasm for it out there beyond the Republican and Democratic cocoons. That is outside of the avid pro-Trumpers and the avid anti-Trumpers. Notice I didn’t say avid Biden supporters. There aren’t many. Biden supporters break down to 47% of them say they’re voting for Biden, 51% say they’re voting against Trump. Compare Biden supporters to Trump supporters, 67% of Trump supporters state they’re voting for Trump, 32% against Biden. Questions 29 and 30.

    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_HqmM53D.pdf

    Which isn’t surprising when one looks at the exit polls from 2020. Biden won those who I call Anti-Voters or those who just vote against a candidate, not for any candidate 68-30 over Trump. It didn’t matter who won as long as the candidate the anti-voter voted against lost. What folks don’t know is among those who voted for a candidate because they wanted that candidate to win, Trump won those voters over Biden 53-46.

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results

    Biden owes his presidency to the anti-voters who voted only for a candidate to lose. The question now becomes, can Biden once again win the anti-vote, those who only vote for a candidate to lose large enough to over come those who vote for a candidate to win? We’ll find out in November. I put it this way, this rematch is between pro-Trumpers vs. Anti-Trumpers. It certainly isn’t between pro-Trumpers vs. Pro-Biden.
     
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  9. David Landbrecht

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    Entirely possible.
     
  10. Jack Hays

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    Both advocate disqualifying policies.
     
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's something I support.
     
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    1. Abandonment of the Afghans.
    2. Abandonment of the Ukrainians.
    3. Denigration of military service.
    4. The election lie.
    5. Persistent dishonesty in matters large and small.
    6. Etc.
     
  13. JohnHamilton

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    Biden does the same thing with the student loan forgiveness and his corrupt son.
     
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  14. gorfias

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    Worse, they get creative to "Get Trump". They'll lie (Russia Russia Russia hoax) and do whatever they can to stop him. They circle the wagons for Biden. Take the document scandal. Trump, as POTUS, had the power to take classified documents. Biden, as a Senator, did not. Trump is in trouble. Biden is off the hook as he is an old man with a poor memory. They toted the Russia Russia Russia hoax for three years. 51 deep state intelligence assets deliberately mislead the American people claiming the laptop had all the marks of a Russian plant. They did this when the FBI had already verified its authenticity. This allowed Biden to claim that he had the signatures of these assets calling the laptop "B.S." which it wasn't.
    If Biden is just an old man with a poor memory and can't be prosecuted, doesn't that make him infinitely more dangerous to us than Trump?
     
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    Yea , I realized MAGA prefer $2 gas then American democracy. As long as they get tax cut, $2 gas price they don’t care if “ I want to be dictator on day one” is the leader of this country.
     
  16. Endeavor

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    Biden first student loan got struck down by SCOTUS, and if his 2nd student loan is unconstitutional, that will be struck down by SCOTUS.

    Biden son is not the POTUS.

    Your hate toward DEMS so deep that you are ok “ I want to be dictator on day one” became POTUS.
     
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    I know in MAGA world everything re-written, so the Pus** grabbing orange god look good. but the Russia investigation started with Senator John McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham. Just a history lesson, these two senators are Republican. One of them was Republican nominee in 2008. When john McCain was running as Republican nominee , Trump was donating money to Hilary to be POTUS. The Russia investigation started with Senate Intel Chair Richar Burr. When Senator Burr was fighting for Republican causes his ,entire life, Trump was grabby P*** against their will. In DOJ, it was Rod Rosenstein, another life long Republican, appointed by Trump appointed special counsel Robert Mueller. Robert Mueller is another lifelong Republican, when Muller was fighting for USA in the jungle of Vietnam, Trump was grabbing P*** on the street of NYC.

    But yea, it was DEMS who was obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia.
     
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    I don’t believe in polls.

    So every thing you wrote is meaningless to me.

    My question is do you think Biden is worse then the guy who wants to be dictator?
     
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    Wow. I'd never heard this before. Like, ever. Never ever. So, doesn't appear they ever pushed it anywhere and is immaterial.

    What matters is what we went thru for 3 years and that was a narrative pushed against Trump by Democrats. And I suppose some RINOs. And the Durham Report called it all B.S. for real.
     
  20. JohnHamilton

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    I hate Democrats so much, I would consider voting for John Fetterman in five years if I lived in Pennsylvania.

    The leadership of the Democrat Party has become a serious threat to our republic. If that’s hate, I plead guilty.
     
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    DEMS are so threat to our republic that you like to vote for the guy who says “ I want to be dictator on day one”.

    But it doesn’t matter , as I have said after 2028 there will not be another GOP who can win WH.
     
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  22. Endeavor

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    As I have posted in my previous post , John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Richard Burr, Rod Rosenstein, Robert Muller used to be republican who started the Russian Investigation. Today the “Pu** grabbing orange god” decide who is republican and who is not.
     
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    It is interesting that my post didn't even mention Democrats. Must be a guilty conscious for trying to distract from what they did to our country with their hoax that lasted 3 years. Disgraceful.
     
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    you all dont want a constitutional republic, you want mob rule where minority rights-such as free speech-don't exist. and Biden's desires to disarm America is far more likely to lead to dictatorships than Trump's flippant comments
     
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    Only disgraceful thing for 4 long years was Trump kissing Putin a$$.
     

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