DIRTY Joe lets in more illegals than the entire population of S. Dakota

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  1. CKW

    CKW Well-Known Member

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    So based on the unbias data in this link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/ Which candidate does a better job at the border? That is the point of choosing a president right? The one who does the better job?? Please do discuss those 12 charts within the link.
     
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    I do not subscribe to the Washington Post. Why do you cite links that are inaccessible without a subscription? Isn't that a violation of the forum's guidelines?

    Trump's false claim to have built a wall that "was one of the largest infrastructure projects we've ever had in this country!" is readily available to everyone.
     
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    Strange...I don't subscribe either. But I'm able to see the article. Please explain how you can say Biden does better at controlling the border? Illegal crossing by origin countries.PNG Illegal Crossings at the Border.PNG
     
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    I have not speculated regarding who "does better at controlling the border." As Chip Roy noted, no president controls the border.

    Does the number of desperate families seeking access to advanced nations where jobs are plentiful vary based upon a multiplicity of factors? Of course.
     
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    Did you forget that there were ad-ons to the bill because the Freedom Caucas insisted that the issues of border security and aid be linked?
     
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    Biden and the Dems stubbornly denied there was a problem until election season. Now they're trying to make it appear the Pubs are at fault. It was pretty predictable but that dog don't hunt.
     
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    Ok. So am I reading this right? You are a Biden supporter and speculating who "does better at controlling the border" is NOT of interest to you. Typical of the progressive leftist but the typical American, democrat and republican ...and "other".... are concerned about border control.

    Which is why pro-Biden activists try to confuse Americans by spewing out data to make it LOOK like border control was worse under Trump. But we ALL know it wasn't .
     
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    Again, as ultra-conservative Chip Roy, a relentless critic of the nation's policies regarding the border (where Trump did not build "One of the largest infrastructure projects we've ever had in this country!" as he falsely claimed) no president exercises control of immigration, legal or illegal. The rate of immigration varies, primarily influenced by external factors (as has been the case under every president over the past few decades) although America's current employment opportunity is certainly an incentive for desperate families seeking a better life.

    Pretending that presidents control immigration for partisan purposes refuses to acknowledge the reality.

    • FEBRUARY 4, 2024​
    "I am happy to announce, we have finally finished strong bill text to add to the supplemental funding bill. Though most members of the Senate have already been briefed on the contents of the bill, the final text will be distributed to members of the Senate soon and posted online within a day.

    “The border security bill will put a huge number of new enforcement tools in the hands of a future administration and push the current Administration to finally stop the illegal flow. The bill provides funding to build the wall, increase technology at the border, and add more detention beds, more agents, and more deportation flights. The border security bill ends the abuse of parole on our southwest border that has waived in over a million people. It dramatically changes our ambiguous asylum laws by conducting fast screenings at a higher standard of evidence, limited appeals, and fast deportation.

    “New bars to asylum eligibility will stop the criminal cartels from exploiting our currently weak immigration laws. The bill also has new emergency authorities to shut down the border when the border is overrun, new hiring authorities to quickly increase officers, and new hearing authorities to quickly apply consequences for illegal crossings. It changes our border from catch and release to detain and deport.

    “Our immigration laws have been weak for years. This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to close our open border and give future administrations the effective tools they need to stop the border chaos and protect our nation.”

    Border policy is primarily the responsibility of Congress, and Trump’s opposition to the $118 billion bipartisan border bill caused Trump-controlled Republican legislators to reject it. It also dealt a potentially fatal blow to the possibility of new laws and tools that could reduce illegal crossings and ease strains on cities with overwhelmed shelters.

    Trump's fear that it would empower the President to deal with the problem was, undoubtedly justified.
     
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    That's it!

    This problem will not go away till we have more CBP and Justices in place to deal with the influx. That's what the legislation would have addressed, but we know Repubs are not serious because once again, they bowed down to the Orange Farts wishes.

    Why can't Repubs come up with a solution? All they do is bitch about Biden, but can not come up with a real solution to deal with the situation. It's all about using the issue as political fodder, a ruse to feed the rubes what they want to hear.

    All that MAGA is is about hate, vengeance, and owning the libs. They haven't an ounce of credibility on this issue because all they want is political theater.
     
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    Senator Chris Murphy summed it up nicely when he noted that "Republicans are full of $hit when they complain about the border, They killed the tough, bipartisan border security bill because Trump told them to keep the border a mess because it would help him politically.”
     
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