In Your Lifetime, America Will Become a 3rd World S**t Hole

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    LMAO please I would love nothing more than for the European Union to take charge of its own destiny and liberate us from the wars our politicians get us into on EU behalf.

    Please put this bark where its bite is. In the US we have ‘Slava Ukraine’. We have nothing. We have taxation without representation
     
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    I hate to interrupt your strange european dreams but the EU has already long taken charge of it's own destiny. You are talking about the relationship between the USA and NATO nations. Not all of the EU is part of NATO.

    The money invested by the USA in NATO is a drop in the bucket compared to the free rent for US military installations of our own choosing and automatic overfly rights we get. We get the better part of the deal, no matter how you slice it. Only NAZIS and other assorted Putin servants try to say that NATO is mooching off of the USA. It is not. That is just plain old propaganda.
     
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    Europe's destiny is being a 3rd world Muslim craphole. Demographics don't lie and the population replacement in Europe is the fastest in world history.
     
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    All of the hyperbole aside, we’ve recently heard that from the NATO Countries as well: At least we can have military installations in these countries and we can rapidly deploy from there.

    Who do you think this actually benefits from this? It’s not the USA, that’s for sure. Why? Because we don’t really need it. We could pull our bases back, have a neutral foreign policy and we’d be the new Switzerland: Neutral and a significant diplomatic power while reforming back at home

    Meanwhile to quote the Japanese PM: US ‘leadership’(which means a military merchant state actually at this point): is’indispensable’

    It sure is! For the hapless hacks in Europe it means they can keep their largesse social programs without having to lift a finger.

    Indeed the only reason they’re talking tougher now is the fear(even in spite of protections offered by the controversial and quite possibly constitutionally dubious law of 2023 which defacto gives the powers to Congress that formerly resided exclusively with the executive branch) that Trump would take us off the convenient gravy train.

    And this actually disgusts me even more: The Europeans only care about their national security interests if and only if we’re not going to get involved!

    Today’s current situation isn’t WWII but it is WWI to the hilt: Entangled alliances and conflict borne from them.

    The US today doesn’t hold the position of then Great Britain: Getting involved as a result of the violation of Belgian neutrality. No, the US-NATO relationship is akin to Germany/Austria-Hungary where the Austro-Hungarian empire took German guarantees to mean war and Germany was like ‘welp, okay’

    We all know how that story ended: With the fatal collapse of the Austro-Hungarian empire and German fault for the war which led to a bigger war down the line.

    Im not interested in following the path of the failed military alliance or the geopolitical consequences therein if we actually lost.

    No, this time Austro-Hungary(NATO) needs to hold its own weight. If NATO seeks conflict it must do so without Article 5. This is EUROPE’s problem. Europe must solve what it’s involved with.

    And no, Europe being held to its responsibilities is not’pro-Putin’ There’s nothing that keeps Putin up at night more than a strong united Europe that doesn’t need the US involvement.

    If he thought such a Europe existed, there’s no “special mission”(war of aggression) into Ukraine.

    And well, given that the EU only cares in the event that we’re not gung-ho to replicate Kaiser Wilheim’s faulty guarantee we can’t say the Russians were wrong in their assessment of EU politics.

    If the Kaiser could do it all over again, he’d tell the Austrians to go **** themselves. So in 2024, I’ll do what wasn’t done in 1914: EU, solve your own issues
     
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    Says the person flying a piss yella and blue flag. Slava azov nazi, slava Bandera, amirite?
    Please haul ass, I agree you can do it better alone. The first step? Pull back your open palm and reach into your own pocket. If you're so great, you shouldn't need any foreign assistance.
     
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    You want to close Ramstein?
     
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    LOL
     
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    You laugh, but the life of a single US Soldier is worth more than the entire European continent put together
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    Isolationsm, yes? Maybe the world will sell you something, but to buy? Can't imagine.
     
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    We Europeans are the ancestors of 95% US-citizens.
     
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    not any more. the country is 5.2% asian for starters, throw in Blacks and native Americans and South Americans its probably more like 80% (because most American blacks and many Latinos have some European blood)
     
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    Ok, so tell me, is the Life of, say, an Aussie Soldier is worth more than the Americas put together?
     
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    95%? 80%? Where the hell are y'all coming up with this crap. Try less than 50%. And headed straight to shithole status partly due to this fact.
     
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    There was a time when the democratic party acted in good faith for America. I have voted for several democrats for president, though I'm a solid conservative. That party no longer exists except in name; it no longer serves the people or the future of the nation. Once corruption pervades a large entity, particularly a political one- it will never return to fundamental values. Politics is always dealing with corruption- the value of a party depends on whether they fight it, of live by it. The democrats of today have abandoned honor and chosen corruption. It will never be what it was again.
     
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    Live your dreams.
     
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    You must live in Amsterdam.....partaking in whatever they've legalized.
     
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    Honestly? Yeah, Australia should pursue her own national interests. I have nothing against that because I don’t see a threat or even the desire to become a threat.

    The initial founding was peace and cooperation with all nations, entangling alliances with none. Then an idiot named Woodrow Wilson came along who made Trump look like a genius in comparison. We ended up in WWI, we tried and failed both to get a favorable agreement abroad and to ratify the League of Nations.

    Then WWII happens and from here, US foreign policy became the hideous monster you see today: To try and fail miserably at “Expanding democracy around the world” the loss of thousands of soldiers from the Vietnam war to the Afghanistan/Iraq war.

    And now we’ve sunk as low as funding a foreign country’s retirement program and have their flags in our own capital.

    You can’t call it a US government anymore. They haven’t served their constituents in maybe decades
     
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    The rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the middle class is vanishing. The standard of living has been on a steady decline for decades.

    The last 6.5 minutes of the video explains why. Watch it. Then maybe you'll understand why deficit spending and borrowing to fund foreign wars isn't a good idea.

    Start at minute 18:50

     
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    You have it backwards. Republicans have abandoned their morals and values to support a candidate already found guilty of sexual assault (called rape in most states), fraud, and defamation. Plus, that candidate also has four indictments with almost 90 felonies and was still nominated by his party. The Democratic party has no problem getting rid of their corrupt politicians like Trafficant, Blagovich, Weiner, and soon to be Melendez. Even Al Franken resigned and didn't do anything illegal. Republicans, on the other hand, welcome criminals.
     
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    You missed the point entirely.
     
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    Good nazi thinking right there.
     
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    You aren't allowed to vote? Why?
     
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    I think G.W.Bush proved that even politician who looks and behaves normally can be worse than Trump, so I am positive about American future, even if Trump will win.
     
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    That's kind of funny, you act as it's kind of a new revelation that inequality is on the rise, and is starting to become a problem, and that the creditor class is to blame for it. Are you getting ready to convert to be a socialist?

    It is actually no surprise, even the ancient Babylonians already knew this. In a creditor/debtor system, the wealth accumulates with the creditors, of which there eventually are less and less. When the debtors are so poor that they cannot pay for debt services anymore, the whole system collapses. That's why they did debt forgiveness in ancient Babylon (I think every seven years or so), so the cycle can start anew.

    Now, the GOP has installed this "beautiful" system where the creditors don't have to pay sufficient taxes to pay for government services, but they are allowed to charge the government interest for those services, since the GOP makes the government run on debt (provided by the creditors) rather than taxes. The GOP also allows the creditors to pay much less taxes on investment income than labored income, and they have virtually abolished the "death tax". Why would anyone be surprised that the creditors continue to get richer at the expense of the middle class and the poor (the debtors)? Reaganomics was the real start of all this, but, surprisingly, Reagan is still hero in RW world.

    I'd suggest you do a little more research on this, maybe you'll change the way you vote.
     
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