Israel as Superpower

The scourge is Israel.

Palestine is an independent country and plans to stay that way.

That does NOT mean they are enemies of Israel - unless Israel is coming to slaughter them. Which they ARE.

 

In your scenario, the murderer is Israel and you claimed Palestinians aren't running fast enough.

Review your own post.

 

REALLY! It still happening, and for awhile now, where are the protesters? Or is it another FOTM, and something the media want the viewers to be concerned with

I just think it's a reason to hate and push the U.S. in to another money sink at the hand of propagandists..

 

Did Hamnas invade Isreal, murder citizens, take hostages and were they and are they being abused for political gain?

 

No, they carried out a terrorist attack. You can't call it an invasion when it didn't even last for one day.

My guess is that Gaza faced a problem. Israel was waging war on them, with the siege (which IS war), rendering Gaza in desperate poverty and with no hope for the last 20 years.

Israel and the US were not willing to find a solution through negotiation. And, the world had lost interest.

After Oct 7, that is not the case anymore!

Now, EVERYONE is interested! And, Israel can not defeat Gaza. They tried and failed.

So, it is FAR more possible for a real solution to be negotiated for Palestine's permanence. and an end to the 20 years of Israeli war against them.


Gaza changed the rules.

 

So, we're, well left, is now siding with terrorist..

Times, they are a changing..

 

Nobody can possibly side with genocide.

 

What are your choices, hamas is classified as a terrorist organization..

Clearly you are in support of them

 

So was Nelson Mandela.

 

Lmao, you're good with that comparison

 

It's not genocide, it's crippling, if not destroying a vile terrorist organization. They're the ones placing other Palestinians in danger.

 

Not only did we classify them as terrorist, we supplied Israel with millions of dollars of bombs with which to slaughter Palestinian citizens.

We've supported the siege that is an act of war that has kept Gaza in hunger and without an economy for decades now.

We've refused to allow negotiations on any issue related to Palestine.

And, we've used veto power and economic coercion to protect Israel for decades to ensure our position is the law.



Are you going to try to claim that the US was right about anything we've done wrt Palestine in the last 20 years?

Do you support the genocide we enable? Do you support starvation as a war method? Do you support bombing apartment buildings in the middle of the night? Do you support the destruction of hospitals and the murder of the doctors, nurses and patients? Do you support the bulldozing of Palestinian homes in West Bank and the constant theft of Palestinian property there?

THAT is what the US supports.

 

Hey, I voted for Clinton, and he saw fit to classify them as terrorist then I trust his decision

And no I do not support terrorist..

 

The ICJ has declared it to be a genocide.

No, Israel is slaughtering civilians. They have not degraded the forces defending Gaza.

It would be great if Gaza's defense could stop Israel from slaughtering civilians, but they aren't strong enough to do that.

Israel has not achieved any objective they set out to achieve.

 

There were three groups that called themselves Hamas at that time. One disappeared. Another was centered in some other country, but carried out operations in West Bank, at least.

What we have today is the political leadership of Gaza, which has military brigades defending Gaza.

They certainly did carry out a terrorist operation on Oct 7.

But, they have also defended Gaza from the war waged by Israel.

And, there is NO comparison between the genocide of Israel and that one act of terrorism.

 

I think the real disconnect from reality here is the NUMBER, slaughtering is classified by amount... If you hold the slaughtering down to a hundred or so then it's acceptable..

Or some wierd justification like that?

 

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Or, 40,000?

 

. You are completely clueless. Totally deluded and deceived. First off, when Hamas initiated the war by attacking Israel they invoked international law that allows Israel the right to defend itself. Since Palestine ignores the international laws of war, they forfeit many of the laws provisions. Positioning arms and ammunition in proximity of churches, schools and hospitals THEY committed the violations and assumed responsibility of the safety of their people.

no armed force is required to forego fighting back from enemy aggression - while proximity of non-combatants IS a factor, deliberately USING them as human shields is forbidden by international law. This entire situation rests completely and totally on the heads of Hamas and their leaders.

 

Ahhh so a sort of the new and improved terrorist lite. Odd, you would think after all thier improvements that our Democrat daddy would have petitioned they be reclassified as unterrorists..

I mean clearly, they have really done so much good for those folks hide behind

 

Like I said, it seems number of slaughter determins the classification..

Interesting, this murdering of civilians is complicated business.

 

I think where Isreal is going wrong is the old EYE for an EYE.. According to slaughter experts if one hundred are slaughtered then retaliation can only be equal plus or minus.

I'm still working on understanding hostage, rape, decapitation and torture..

 

A political judgment at best. antisemitism more likely.

 

Sorry, guy. We've seen decades of war on Gaza from Israel. DECADES.

And, what Israel has faced is some rockets that can't be targeted, bouncing off their "iron dome".

Given the IDF loss and the opinion of the world, we've seen some work on negotiating a resolution.

However, Israel seems to think they get Gaza!!!

Unbelievable! What do they think Gaza was defending? The right to be refugees???

 

That is the agreed position of the multi national ICJ.

And, there is NO QUESTION that they are right in that assessment.

 

The rape stories of Oct 7 have been thoroughly debunke;d.

Those released from Israeli detention claim those left behind are being tortured.

Gaza's defensive forces are not torturing or raping anyone.

The bodies being dug up at Shifa hospital show those being shot in the back of the head, those run over by tanks, those with IVs still attached, etc.

The IDF are absolutely committing unbelievable atrocities on humans.

The UN human rights office is investigating. These are cases that could result in post-war trials.