Hamas accepts Egypt deal. Netanyahu says NO.

The missiles they shoot at Israel are not war crimes.

IDF they kill, their tanks, the armored tractors, the personnel carriers they blow up, the IDF compounds in Gaza that they destroy, the IDF snipers that sit in windows in full view that Hamas snipes, the ambushes they set. etc. etc.

These are not crimes, obviously.

 

you act like this is the only nastiness the jihadist scum Hamas engaged in. WRONG.

if someone pulls a knife on you and cuts you-but not fatally, they cannot complain if you shoot them 5 times with an elephant rifle. If you didn't want to be shot, you shouldn't have tried to harm them with a lethal weapon, albeit one that is less powerful than the one used against you

 

Hyperbolic hysteria noted,

why do I get the idea this is more about leftist hatred of a US Ally than caring about those who aid abet and provide cover for terrorist jihadists?

 

Which time? Be a bit more specific. What I remember is Oct 7th, balloon bombs, Hamas suicide bombings, Hamas human shields.

 

Which time???

Look up this issue. Gaza has shot a LOT of rockets into Israel over the years.

Remember that Israel has been waging war on Gaza for 20 years.

 

All of humanity has the duty of protecting innocent life, regardless of origin.

 

If you have access to secret documents exchanged between Hamas and Israel and you know that Hamas accepted Egyptian proposals without changing a word – then you right saying "Hamas accepts Egypt deal. Netanyahu says NO.", if not – you are spreading fake news.

Yes, negotiations are not static, but you cannot say “I agree” on something different than original proposal. If someone is saying – “you own me $100”, you cannot say “I agree, I own you $1” – unless you want to cheat.

Why Hamas should accept original proposals? Because it will stop fighting and will benefit people of Gaza although for sure it will not benefit Hamas.
Give me a reason why Israel should make permanent ceasefire with Hamas, an organization who on Oct 7 committed genocide murdering 1200 Israelis, raped Israeli women, kidnapped men, women and children and promised more genocide attacks:


For sure Hamas refusal to accept the original proposal serves Netanyahu, but it also shows the true nature of Hamas – they don’t give a flying f*** for a wellbeing of people of Gaza, they care only their own survival.

How about the new conspiracy theory – Hamas don’t care about Palestinian people, because Hamas is secret Netanyahu army?

 

Hamas are terrorists. Any "deal" allowing Hams to continue existing in Israel so they can do Oct 7th all over again in the future is not a deal.

 

No, Gaza has been waging war on them for 20 years

 

Gaza will have a chance to recover and choose a better direction when this war against Hamas is finished.

 

This is false and you know it is false. They have been calling buildings telling them to evacuate. They have been using drones counting the number of people leaving buildings. They have been using roof knocking to alert people to evacuate. They have been warning the enemy of when and where they intend to bomb and invade. There has never been a military that has gone to these lengths to protect innocent lives. It is Hamas who is ordering families to store munitions in their homes. It is Hamas who is ordering people to not evacuate. It is Hamas who is using hospitals and civilians as human shields. And yet, these are the false allegations you are choosing to make.

 

So if the war is benefiting Hamas why are they crying for a cease fire?

 

I don’t really care if Israel isn’t concerned about collateral damage. What country in our recent past cared? Certainly no country who wants Israel to be concerned like the U.S. How many Germans were slaughtered during WW2? That for most is a rhetorical question so I am not looking for an answer.

 

Hamas propaganda is being spewed everywhere.

 

I think the real war here is an information and propaganda war, not so much the hot war against Hamas. That organization is doomed. Its members signed their own death warrant and chose to end Hamas as a whole on October 7, but their foreign backers clearly have bigger aims to harm Israel and the United States politically and strategically through this.

 

Rumors have it that Biden is considering bringing Palestinian refugees to America. I wonder how Biden will time it. Before or after the 2024 elections?

 

Has to be before to get the Terrorist vote.

 

Hamas accepted a negotiated deal.

You can't whine about that.

And, no, there has been no genocide against Israel in the ME EVER. There have been wars, but not genocide.

Gaza is being defended against the 20 YEARS of war waged by Israel.

Gaza has demanded nothing more than the end of Israel's war against them.

The same is true in West Bank, where Israel steals the land of Palestinians who have worked for negotiations and have cooperated with the IDF against violence - where Israel uses US D9 caterpillars and other US equipment to destroy the homes of Palestinians and rules Palestinians, in their own land, using Israeli military law.

Israel can not POSSIBLY be defended for their actions in this Zionist campaign. Listen to Smotrich. He demands that Palestinians be slaughtered to a person, with the threat of bringing down Netanyahu's government.

Haretz: Smotrich repeatedly calls for the genocide of all Palestinians

 

That's not a legitimate tactic.

You can't just declare the defenders of Gaza "terrorists" and then declare genocide of all civilians legitimate.

Anyway, Israel is losing. And, the record of war crimes of the IDF are increasing.

 

True.

But, not if Israel succeeds with their genocide.

So far, Israel is losing, so there is hope for Palestinians.

 

That is not evenf slightly good enough.

Many in Rafah can not evacuate. Telling a region with a million people to run for their lives is not even SLIGHTLY an excuse.

The civilians of Rafah are NOT AN ENEMY.

Your other accusations are total BS, and you should well know that.

Israel is NOT fighting Hamas. They are following Smotrich and the rest who simply demand that Palestinians be slaughtered.

 

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Palestinians demand that they be a free people within the borders of Gaza.

Free to conduct trade. Free to have food and water. Free to be safe. Free to have hospitals, universities. Free to travel.

That is what they have to gain.

For the last 20 years, they have been living in an open air Israeli prison.

 

Israel's PURPOSE is genocide of the entire population. Their top leaders DEMAND that - as cited in Haaretz above.

DO NOT CLAIM that our military EVER had that as an objective.

 

OK, I understand: you read the original Hamas response and you know better then Israel and the US – Hamas did not change the agreement:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/07/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-ceasefire-proposal.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/world/middleeast/burns-cease-fire-hamas.html?smid=url-share

Yes, it is not a big change when Hamas instead of releasing alive hostages will release hostages’ corpses – anyway we know that lives of Jewish hostages depends on context.

We also know that murdering 1200 Israelis, raping Israeli women and kidnapping Israelis children (the youngest 10 months old) is not genocide, because it depends on the context if murdering, raping and kidnapping of Jews is genocide.

Israel army left Gaza in 2005 and Gaza population democratically elect Hamas which promised never make peace with Israel and to replace Israel with Muslim Caliphate, where women, gays, lesbian, atheists and apostates will be free as much as Shariya Laws allow – but why American student should give a flying f** to what will happen to Muslim women, gays, lesbian, atheists and apostates?

And everyone know that preventing import of arms and missiles to Gaza what basic human right violation.

And Gaza population demands nothing more than to let continue the job which Hamas started. Anyway Hamas evaluated Oct 7 project and decided that price of Oct 7 project was right:



And listen to Smotrich, Ben Gvir and not to:

https://twitter.com/jewishmcjewface/status/1769118916616315341/video/2

https://twitter.com/i/status/1769905823529271349

And please, make Gaza mothers happy:

 

This is an astoundingly disgusting idea.

It's what Israel wants - Palestinians to be run out of their country, never to return.

It is what the US has supported in Israel's war on Palestinians.

To present that as a favor to Palestinians couldn't BE more disgusting.