Scottish "nationalists" win parliamentary majority for "independence" referendum

Salmond, as usual, is telling lies.

(Aside for non-Scots:
The big lie Salmond tells is that he claims he and his "Scottish National Party" support and campaign for Scottish national independence, whereas they are disinterested in or hostile to genuine national independence and settle for much less.

"National independence" implies that a nation has the independence to elect the head of the nation state, the president of a national republic, whereas Salmond only supports independence for appointed Queen's ministers of Scotland, administering a state, a kingdom, within the Windsor dynasty realm, "the union crown".

In other words, Salmond surrenders the position of head of state to the Windsor royal family, and opposes the Scots independently electing a Scottish head of a Scottish state, as I explain, somewhat angrily, in this video)
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5aawSdrCMk"]YouTube - Peter Dow says Salmond betrays Scottish independence for Queen's united kingdoms[/ame]

So this election result is not a victory for "a society and a nation". What nonsense!

This is a victory of one party of royalist lackeys, the SNP, over other parties of royalist lackeys.

The Queen wins again, like she always does when elections are rigged by the broadcasters spending so much air-time between elections broadcasting propaganda on behalf of the royal family, as recently with the royal wedding, then during political debates, giving preferential media coverage to royalist parties and royalist candidates.

This election was rigged in favour of the Queen's candidates, as are all the other elections in her kingdom.

It would be different and a good thing if the SNP had a republican leader and platform to fight for a Scottish republic, starting with banning the Queen from Scotland.

But Salmond is a royalist and the SNP under his leadership is a royalist party and they are in politics to serve their Queen and to serve themselves. They are not in politics to serve the Scots.

So the exact opposite of a Scottish republic will continue, as will soon be proved when the Queen visits Holyrood to rubber-stamp her new SNP administration at the opening of the new session of the Scottish parliament.

What more Queen's government means for Scotland is a continuing stream of death, disaster and missed opportunity for the Scots.

This is not "victory for the Scots". This is subjugation and brainwashing of the Scots by the United Kingdom and union crown state as per usual.

 

Real Scottish election results revealed - Queen wins again!



Salmond swears loyalty to the Queen.

Today, members of the Scottish Parliament swore allegiance to the Queen and most of them meant it.

At last we can clearly see the real result of the elections to Scottish parliament.

It was not a victory for the Scottish nation.

It was a victory for the Queen because her lackeys have control over the Scottish parliament once again.

Scotland is to continue to be ruled by the same Queen's ministers, judges and officers.

No change in Scotland.
No independence for the Scots.
Subjugation to the crown as per usual.

If you are not happy with Scots being subjugated by the Queen's royalist, fascist police state, you'll be wanting Scots to have our FREEDOM then?

Please register with the For Freedom Forums and join with other Scots and our friends world-wide to organise political support for a Scottish republican political alternative to the Queen's rule.

 

Said it before and will say it again.. SNP are a joke. They are socialist who like to bow to the Queen.

 

That's why they are known as the "Tartan Tories"

 

I like strong one-party Government and dislike coalitions, PR, AV, AV+, STV, 'confidence and supply' ...

So I should be pleased Scotland has a strong one party Government and I am - ONLY for the reason I gave above!

Just so long as no new powers are handed to the third-rate politicians that make up that joke that sits in the over-price carbuncle at HolyRood - no new powers so that can drive us into more debt and tax us even more - which is their want.

One bright spot I am looking forward to - is the resounding defeat for the Chookters on the Independence referendum.


BE POSITIVE SAY NO!

 

Mhhm.. galling to see people write political change from within the system? That the SNP did not have to stoop to the violence of other political lobbyists, like the IRA for example?

It is possible to create change without using violence.

We will not know what the SNP is until it achieves independence and is required to replace the main aim of independence with normal policies.

Btw, would Tartan Tories make university education free to all....and would it introduce free prescriptions? (don't bother with the it's not free your taxes pay, we know all that). I don't think I've seen Tories support that kind of policy for a while...

 

See the towering walls of the United Kingdom's Scottish castle come crumbling down under the full onslaught of Salmond's SNP.

http://www.exploretalent.com/model_page_video.php?talentnum=1041300&video_id=34678

 

If it works good for you guys.. but it won't. Nobody knows what a group is until it is in power. But we do now SNP policies and attitudes towards things like the Crown and it's pie in the sky ideas about free whatever when they have no control over the revenues that matter.

 

For god sake get a grip!

It may of passed you...but the Scottish nation spoke!


End of Story!


And ....Well ....... that's democracy for you!!!


God.... am I proud of the Scottish nation!

We at long last rise from our knees and begin to take our first steps in a very long time!

Regards
Highlander

 

No. The Scottish nation voted, mostly for royalist lackeys the TV in Scotland has been broadcasting speaking for years. The speaking which has been heard is only speaking by the Queen's lackeys. Most Scots have not been heard speaking.

No surprise that now the elected MSPs say -

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but I could have told you they were going to say that before the Scottish nation voted for the Queen's lackeys they have heard speaking, because the election and the parliament is rigged to keep power in the hands of the Queen.

No it isn't the end of the Scottish nation's story. The story doesn't end like this -

Queen Elizabeth's Story
"... and so although many Scottish innocents died in disasters, murdered or in accidents or botched medical care and although economic opportunities were lost in Scotland from the brain drain of clever Scots leaving because they cannot stomach Scottish universities and companies being run by royalist twits and other clever Scots being banned from universities and companies for not being royalist twits, and all this damage done to Scots in Scotland caused by the Queen's stupid, incompetent ministers and officers, all the Scots were faithful and bore true allegiance to Queen Elizabeth anyway.
The End."
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Unfortunately for the Queen and fortunately for the Scots, it is not the end of the story because certain brave-heart Scots will not stand quietly by as the Queen kills our future. Republican Scots like me will continue to fight to change the future of Scots into a better story with a happier ending.

No, the Scottish elections were not democracy because democracy means "government by all the people" it does not mean "government by an elected dictatorship". If this was a democracy you and I and all the Scots would be in the government, not just the Queen's ministers.

The Queen's ministers and officers will be making sure that the Scots are not allowed in the government by shutting outspoken Scots up, denying us free speech, denying us the right to publish and the right to protest.

The Scots to be proud of are those who fight this Queen and her rule - not the Scots who say they will be faithful to her.

No, most Scots are still on their knees to the Queen.

 

Peter, do you know you have a Union Jack in your profile as your location? Is that because you support the union?

 

I don't support the United Kingdom, no.

I don't support the union crown.
The union of the crowns means Scotland has the same monarch as England.

I don't support keeping the Windsor monarchy.

Salmond supports the union crown, wants to keep the Queen.

Samond supports dependence on the Queen. Salmond opposes Scottish national independence.

So I am not a unionist but Salmond is a unionist, he is a "unionist of the crowns".

I will repeat that because people simply do not notice this.

Alex Salmond is a unionist of the crowns.

Alex Salmond opposes real Scottish national indepedence.








I also support the independence of the Scots to elect our own head of state, Salmond doesn't.

I have previously explained Salmond's unionism already in this politicalforum topic -
http://www.politicalforum.com/western-europe/103788-you-ready-salmonds-st-andrews-day-betrayal.html

The Union Jack or flag I interpret as a British flag, as I consider myself to be "British" as well as "Scottish" - dual nationality you might say.

So I would support both an independent Scottish Republic and I would support an independent British republic.

I explain my position on Britain in this page on my website -
"Threats from the United Kingdom (U.K.)"
http://scot.tk/threatswithinUK.htm

I do know that many people confuse the United Kingdom with the British nation but they are not the same thing. I would say the biggest enemy of the British people is the United Kingdom state because that is the state which subjugates the British people.

I am fighting to free the Scots from the Queen's rule.
I am fighting to free the Britons from the Queen's rule.

Salmond and the SNP under him want to keep the status quo of rule by the Queen.

 

Scotland has done bloody well in being the 2nd biggest partner in the Union. Through the EU and the Commonwealth we have developed and then embraced a global culture that includes over 100 countries and over 2billion people in a worldwide partnership that has attempted to benefit all.


The Scots have proved within these all of these unions that we are good at blending in and forming social and economic partnerships, but now the nats are asking us to divorce the whole bally lot of them and start all over again.


If it's not broken then why break it and then try and fix it again?

 

It is broken.

 

"I note that the Scottish parliament has decided not to have a Scottish referendum, because most of its members understand what the SNP do not: that the first priority for the people of Scotland is not separation but social justice" Gordon Brown.

I don't often agree with GB, but he hit the nail on the head there. The SNP are a political joke.

 

And Scotland is a joke, is that your general leaning? It really is time for a parting of the ways, isn't it.

Gordon Brown is not in power, btw. Salmond is...very much so.

 

Who do you mean by "Scotland"? Do you mean "monarchist elites such as the Scottish aristocracy, judiciary and capitalists"?

The Scottish elite have done OK out of "the union", the Union of the Crowns and the United Kingdom, granted, but what of the ordinary Scots?

How bloody well did Highland Scots do in the Highland clearances?

How bloody well did Lowland Scots do when persecuted for their Covenanter beliefs?

How bloody well did the Scots do in World War 1 when working class Scots were herded by the UK King to their deaths defenceless right into the firing zone of the machine guns of an army of a related King?

How bloody well did the Scots do in the second world war when they were captured by the Japanese along with other poorly led British soldiers at the fall of Singapore, and at other infamous military disasters of the UK high command?

I think there has been plenty of Scottish blood spilt for the union but those who benefited were the Scottish royalist elite, not the ordinary Scot.

Don't get me wrong - I am more of a war monger than most Scots, but there are many ways, competently and incompetently, to fight a war.

I think we could have conserved our blood more efficiently all those years as an independent Scottish republic and this is the way forward for Scots.

Instead we have bled the ground red again and again for a rotten monarchy whose Kingdom is not a union of partner nations but a subjugation of all nations to a UK royalist elite. I say "enough of the UK".

But I also say "no" to Salmond and the SNP who practise the same deception as you do when they talk about "Scotland" and "an independent Scotland" never an independent Scottish nation electing our own head of state, a president of a Scottish republic because Salmond's SNP represent not the aspirations of the Scottish nation but of many in the Scottish royalist elite who simply want a bigger share of Scotland's resources, such as oil revenues, which they have no intention of sharing out to the ordinary Scots. This elite wants to keep the Queen because they know that the Queen will allow Salmond and his royalist elite pals to keep the lot.

I say "enough of the union of the crowns, enough of monarchy".

Well perhaps Scots can stay in the EU, and press for republican revolution in the Commonwealth?

 

Flash Gordon Brown I love you but we only have 14 hours to save the British people!

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvl_IHuRdXA]The Queen's ministers of Scotland 2011 betraying the Scots. (YouTube)[/ame]

TRAITOR!

Salmond has sworn to serve Queen Elizabeth and that means he won't be serving the Scots, he'll be betraying us for his Queen.

Salmond and his team of Queen's ministers are traitors who have sold us Scots into subjugation under the rule of terror by the Queen's judges, courts, police and prisons.

So don't trust them or their Queen.
Only a Scottish republic can deliver freedom and prosperity for the Scots.

You are invited to visit the website at SCOT.TK and to register with the forums at FIGH.TK.

 

Salmond has sworn to serve Queen Elizabeth and that means he won't be serving the Scots, he'll be betraying us for his Queen. -Peter Dow

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Queen Elizabeth is Scotland's Queen as well, whether you like it or not.

 

That is for the Scots to decide, whether you in London like it or not.

Elizabeth is Salmond's Queen, that is his decision
Elizabeth is Lord Hamilton's Queen, that is his decision.
Whether the Scots recognise anyone as our one true Queen is up to all Scots to decide.
I see no evidence that the Scots as a nation recognise Elizabeth as our Queen. I see Elizabeth being imposed upon Scots by the union crown state. That doesn't give her any legitimacy as "Queen of Scotland" or "Queen of Scots" whatsoever.

I am a Scottish republican, wanting no Queen of Scotland, as I explain and demonstrate in my profile video.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=789SkK7uwiY"]YouTube - ‪Scottish republican socialist Peter Dow, author and protester‬‏[/ame]

 

Mmm...pray tell.....where is it written or even stated that that German lady has any right in Scotland???
Never mind Queen!

Its against Scottish law for her to be called queen of Scotland as all educated people know!

She has no rights......legally or otherwise.

Regards
Highlander

 

Isn't Scotland part of the United Kingdom?

 

Not for much longer.

 

I remember the Scot-nats who went about with cold chisels attacking new post-boxes, removing one "I" so that it read "Elizabeth I" and not "Elizabeth II" That appears to accept her status as queen, but as the first, not the second, Elizabeth of Scotland.