Major General says: 10 retired CIA all claim B/C is a fraud!

Listen to Vallely here from this afternoon talk about the CIA:


5 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvdo4UBGpLI&feature=player_embedded#at=317

 

I love all these unverified statements General Ex throws out. I could say I'd had retired CIA agents discover the moon was made of green cheese and it would have the same level of credibility. What is it about the Birther cult that seems to reduce otherwise rational people to a state approaching senility?

 

You could. But it, wouldnt.

 

The General swore an Oath to preserve and defend the Constitution. He knows Obama is violating it and the CIA agents know what Obama released was a forgery. What you are witnessing is shear Patriotism.

 

yep. it's the standard birther montra. "any day now"

you guys have had 3 years, and.....................nothing.


it really sucks to be a birther

 

you mean the proven forgery that orly was sanctioned over?

 

Sigh. One more time, we get nothing from the Birthers!

Where's The Beef??!!!

 

I'm still waiting for the Birthers here to let us know what happened to the 7 ex-CIA agents that disappeared between Tuesday and today?

 

Sure he is a credible source.

This birther thing is turning more and more into 9/11 nutjobs claiming it was bush himself.

 

What he's not telling you is that the "CIA" he's referring to is actually the Conservative disInformation Alliance, a drool-tank that spews Republican screed all over the airwaves.

 

The media smokescreen has been working overtime covering up the question of Hussein’s eligibility. Every story, no matter how slight, has to blow so much smoke Hussein’s latest lie will not the see the light even when there is nothing but the weather report and sports scores to report. For better or for worse, talking heads can always find Weiners and Republican wannabes to take up the slack on slow news days.

The way the momentum is going against Hussein the MSM has to get at least two more smoke-makers running full blast before November 2012.

The enclosed article pounds away at the forgery Hussein released in April:

Retired Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, the chief of Stand Up America, a national security expert and Fox News contributor, says the "Certificate of Live Birth" released in April by the White House as "proof positive" of President Obama's Hawaiian birth is a forgery, but the FBI is covering the fraud and no one in Congress is willing to tackle the situation because of fears of a "black backlash" if the failings of the nation's first black president are revealed.

In addition to the text there is a 50:26 audio link that is well-worth listening to. Colonel Terry Lakin and General Paul Vallely are interviewed on the radio.

NOTE: Colonel Lakin got scant coverage in the MSM when he was being tried. The coverage he did get painted him as a misguided soldier being manipulated by crazy Hussein-haters. Even before Lakin was released from Leavenworth his name had completely disappeared from the news. Had he been an illegal immigrant child rapist released from prison on a technicality the public would be inundated with the injustice of his conviction in the first place. In media circles some injustices are more equal than others.

The fear of a black backlash should Hussein finally be exposed for the fraud he is assumes a majority of blacks are also liars. An overwhelming majority of blacks will vote for the Democrat no matter what he is shown to be; they will definitely vote for Hussein again, but they will not man the barricades for an exposed liar. There will be some demonstrations to be sure. Guys like Al Sharpton will not miss an opportunity to stir up unrest.

Naturally, black members of Congress will have to play to their white, and black, constituents on the far-Left. Indignation, moral outrage, and the usual charge of racism should be enough to cover their butts.

When all is said and done, nobody with authority in the federal government is going to place restrictions on presidential eligibility according the US Constitution. Not when they all support opening up the presidency to foreigners and ineligible Americans anyway. Such a move by the federal government would fly in the face of a one government world without national borders. State ballot-eligibility laws is still the public’s best hope for resolving the question of presidential eligibility.

Here’s the informative piece in two parts:

Ex-CIA: 'Forged document' released as birth certificate
Gen. Paul Vallely: Congress afraid to probe 'possible felony' over fears of 'black backlash'
Posted: June 15, 2011
3:09 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh

Retired Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, the chief of Stand Up America, a national security expert and Fox News contributor, says the "Certificate of Live Birth" released in April by the White House as "proof positive" of President Obama's Hawaiian birth is a forgery, but the FBI is covering the fraud and no one in Congress is willing to tackle the situation because of fears of a "black backlash" if the failings of the nation's first black president are revealed.

In an interview today with Greg Corombos for WND, Vallely, who previously has expressed concerns about whether the Obama administration is in violation of the U.S. Constitution, said, "His actual birth certificate has never been found in Hawaii nor released from Hawaii hospital there, Kapiolani hospital there, if it in fact did exist."

"We've had three CIA agents, retired, and some of their analytical associates look at it, and all came to the same conclusion, that even the long-form was a forged document," Vallely said.

"No members of Congress will take this on. The word I get out of Washington is that they don't want to challenge this because it would be in fact a felony offense and in some cases may be even treasonous and [they are] afraid of a black backlash from some of the urban areas," Vallely said.

"But that's a very poor excuse for not taking necessary steps to make sure this president in fact is a legitimate president under Article 2 and he is a born U.S. citizen."

The departments of government designed to uncover wrongdoing, in this case, are on the wrong side, he said.

"I think they're (the FBI) covering for this administration. I think the corruption within this administration is so proliferated through the agencies of government now, we're just in a bad situation here. I think the lack of confidence in our government is growing and many feel that not only all the members of Congress but even our courts are corrupted at this time," he said.

The questions over Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office under the requirements in the Constitution that call for a "natural born citizen" have been raised since before he was elected.In an interview today with Greg Corombos for WND, Vallely, who previously has expressed concerns about whether the Obama administration is in violation of the U.S. Constitution, said, "His actual birth certificate has never been found in Hawaii nor released from Hawaii hospital there, Kapiolani hospital there, if it in fact did exist."

"We've had three CIA agents, retired, and some of their analytical associates look at it, and all came to the same conclusion, that even the long-form was a forged document," Vallely said.

"But that's a very poor excuse for not taking necessary steps to make sure this president in fact is a legitimate president under Article 2 and he is a born U.S. citizen."

The departments of government designed to uncover wrongdoing, in this case, are on the wrong side, he said.

"I think they're (the FBI) covering for this administration. I think the corruption within this administration is so proliferated through the agencies of government now, we're just in a bad situation here. I think the lack of confidence in our government is growing and many feel that not only all the members of Congress but even our courts are corrupted at this time," he said.

The questions over Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office under the requirements in the Constitution that call for a "natural born citizen" have been raised since before he was elected.

Numerous lawsuits have been filed and challenges organized but none have uncovered Obama's documentation. For most of the past few years, his supporters relied on an online image of a Hawaiian short-form "Certification of Live Birth" as proof of his Hawaiian birth, claiming it was the only documentation available from the state.

 

PART TWO

However, just as the New York Times best-seller, "Where's the Birth Certificate: The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President," by Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., was about to be released, Obama dispatched a private attorney to Hawaii to fetch the supposed long-form "Certificate of Live Birth" and explained that the record now would include the full documentation available from Hawaii.

The original hard-copy birth document, whatever it actually is, has never been seen by the public.

Corsi told WND, "The list is growing of those openly acknowledging the Obama long-form birth certificate released by the White House on April 27 is a forgery.

"That former CIA agents are beginning to weigh in on the White House forgery is important. Too many experts remain afraid to speak out about what is an obvious forgery, fearful that openly speaking out against Obama will hurt their income. That Gen. Vallely has now spoken out shows the cracks are widening around the White House façade that the Obama birth certificate is a legitimate document."

He said, "Vallely is right in saying that millions of Americans are still trying to find out who Barack Obama is.

"The cover-up in Hawaii is still continuing. Every professional forensic document examiner knows the best evidence of the Obama long-form birth certificate is not the electronic Adobe file released on the White House website, but the original document the Hawaii DOH is still hiding in its vault, unwilling to let the public see it with their own eyes. Why won't the White House allow a team of independent professional forensic document examiners inspect and authenticate the original birth certificate document? It makes no sense — unless of course there is no long-form birth certificate in the Hawaii DOH vault."

When Obama released the purported long-form certificate, officials in the Hawaii Department of Health and governor's office refused to simply confirm to WND that the image being presented by Obama was an accurate representation of the records maintained by the state.

Vallely said the document should "thoroughly be analyzed by resident FBI officials and analysts to determine if in fact and validate whether it's forged or real."

"One of the apparent flaws in that document was they listed Kenya as the place of birth of Obama's father, but Kenya was not an established country at that time," he noted.

"There's still a lot of controversy about it, and some of us would just like to have this thing clearly authenticated."

He also cited one of the many issues raised by document experts who have challenged the "birth certificate's" authenticity – the layering in the Adobe computer file.

And Vallely said he knows some would not be satisfied with anything the Obama administration would release, which is a problem, in itself, for the White House.

"That's true, because they don't believe he is eligible. You have a fairly growing contingent out there."

Vallely also made similar statements in an online radio program in which he supported Lakin, the Army doctor who refused orders because neither the military nor the White House would document Obama's eligibility. He spent five months in Fort Leavenworth and only recently was released. His comments start at about 3:30 of the YouTube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jTMv2XAUHP4

There, Vallely said, "Obama's birth certificate – I've had retired CIA agents and other investigators go over the birth certificate that was produced and by far, 10 out of 10 have said it's a forgery. So we still have that corruptness going on in the White House. There's a great number of organizations and people still trying to find out who Barack Obama is, where he was born, what his legitimacy is as president of the United States. We know for sure that the Constitution has been violated in Article 2, particularly when you look at the natural-born status."

Only one day earlier, officials in the state of Hawaii claimed that the original of the Obama 'birth certificate' document – the document posted online by the White House – remains "confidential" and cannot be produced in response to a subpoena in a lawsuit over Obama's legitimacy.

The image released by Obama has been challenged by a number of document imaging analysts as a fraud, and it doesn't align with descriptions of it by Obama supporters.

For instance, two weeks before Obama finally released his "long-form birth certificate," Hawaii's former Health Department chief Chiyome Fukino – the one official who claimed to have examined the original birth document under lock and key in Hawaii – was interviewed by NBC News' national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who reported that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certificate and that it was "half typed and half handwritten."

However, the document released by the White House was entirely typed. Only the signatures and two dates at the very bottom were "handwritten." What Fukino described apparently is a different document from what Obama released to the public.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=311433

 

Where's the Birth Certificate?

 

At least an investigation was conducted and a report was written. No such investigation has yet to be conducted by the gub'mint re: Obozo's eligibility.

 

What investigation? SOmeone who already had made up his mind asked like minded people what they thought.

There is 0.0 evidence just some people who happen to work for fox there opinion.

 

What investigation? What report?

You must be high on drugs.

 

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm

Where is the Obama eligibility report?

 

I was thinking you said that about the birther issue not 9/11 .

Not wanting to go offtopic but I still have to see a motive for 9/11 , same for the birther issue.

He gave his short form birth certificate thats all thats is needed.

 

He gave nothing that would be considered evidence in any US court of law.

 

Of course he did, he provided his proof of birth. Why wouldnt it hold up in a cort of law?

 

Are you stating, for the record, that you understand that a computer generated Photoshopped image viewed on any one of three left-wing blog sites would be acceptable in a court of law as evidence?

Would you be able to show proof of your identity at the airport TSA screening by showing the agents an image of what you claim is your birth certificate, or drivers license on your iPhone and they will accept it as valid proof?

 

No I will say that the document in either short or long form it came from is evidence enough.

You will of course never accept that even if you would have the atuall document in hands but you (luckily) arent a court judge competent in such matters.

 

Then why has no one been permitted access to the actual document that these computer images supposedly are copies of?\
Posted: 04/08/2011
HONOLULU (AP) -- A Hawaii appeals court has rejected a man's request to "inspect and copy" President Barack Obama's birth certificate, saying the plaintiff failed to state a valid claim to having access to the document.
http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/national/man-denied-access-to-president's-birth-certificate

 

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Why would some fringe lunatic get acces to it?

And would you believe if they would show you a document? No of course not it will never be enough because you dont want to believe it.

Just like 9/11 believers will never stop .