Dictatorship is the answer

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  1. oldjar07

    oldjar07 Active Member

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    No, your comment was in response to having robots do all the work or run the government.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those terms only become BS when people insist on straying from their commonly accepted meanings and applying their own. There is a difference between democracy and dictatorship, pointing out any similarities that can be found between them doesn't make them equivalent.

    The English language has degrees of subtlety. This entire thread is nothing more than people treating it too bluntly.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it wasn't. It was in response to your comment that "Americans will want a dictator..."



    Go back and look. Posts #18 and #21.
     
  4. peoplevsmedia

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    American democracy is a joke, and under Saddam and under Gaddaffi people had free medical and education. Bush claimed he wanted to bring democracy to Iraq, but most of Bushes followers do not believe America is democracy. nothing to argue here, politics is all hypocrisy.
     
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    ok, so what do you think about robots doing all of the work and running government?
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This really made me laugh. Thanks for the chuckles.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Literacy rate:
    Iraq 78%
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    That may sound great in theory, but it'd never work in practice. Even assuming you got such a leader, what happens when he/she dies and whoever takes over is less than totally benevolent?
     
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    That is the nice thing about dictators, it only takes one bullet to change the system. "Democracies", such as those in western nations, are monsters of political oppression to which a nuke couldn't stop.
     
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    I would rather live in America than have the threat of execution over my head for telling a joke about Saddam. People disappeared quite a bit during his reign.
     
  11. oldjar07

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    A large part of being a good leader is picking a good successor. Otherwise, we could just go back to the old system. This good leader should be able to accomplish all he needs to before he dies.
     
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    Just because Saddam did it doesn't mean all dictators would.
     
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    I think one man/one vote democracy is the answer. Our current system is a charade. It is government of the monied elites, for the monied elites, by the monied elites.

    First items of business - jettison the electoral college and the senate.
     
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    How is that going to work?
     
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    Easy. The senate is an anachronism from a by-gone age and nobody needs the electoral college. Both were intended to circumvent the will of the people because the elites don't trust us. I still believe in the House because that is at least proportional.
     
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    I meant how is everyone voting on every issue going to work. The reason they made the senate is so every state had fair representation. For the electoral college, I agree.
     
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    It is irrelevant whether or not they "would". The fact that dictators COULD do it if they wanted to is exactly the reason why dictatorship is a bad thing.
     
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    A President or a democratic system COULD do the same thing too. They have done so in the past and today many times.
     
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    By definition, they could not do so unless most of the masses wanted to give them that power. And even then, that power could be taken away.

    That is not true with a dictator. A dictator doesnt answer to the masses. No matter how bad democracy "could" get, dictatorship is ALWAYS worse. Because there is nothing holding a dictator in check.
     
  20. oldjar07

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    That's just wrong. A president can execute somebody for making a joke about him if he wanted to, just like a dictator. How do you know a dictator wouldn't answer to the masses? Most politicians lie to get into office, so they are not answering to the masses either. A dictator can hold himself in check.
     
  21. perdidochas

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    A benevolent dictator (philosopher king?) would be the ideal form of government. However, the problem is that benevolent dictators don't exist. If they did, they would become corrupted in a short time.
     
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    The problem is that with real people (not idealized ones like you mention above), very shortly, either the benevolent dictator is corrupted, or is succeeded by someone corrupt.
     
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    And that is the problem.
     
  24. perdidochas

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    Great points, and IMHO, one of the problems with our government today is that the Senate is not composed of representatives of the states in opposition with the House that are representatives for the people.
     
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    Utopia is impossible. Human nature prevents it.

    You don't know much of what you are capable of, as you are still in high school. Most other dictators that started off as benevolent felt exactly the same as you.
     

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