Why did Rudd faulter?

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  1. Oxyboy

    Oxyboy New Member

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    Eloquent than...

    What was your policy when for running as an independent?

    Not education I hope!! LOL

    :)
     
  2. diligent

    diligent New Member

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    Swan's the biggest dud of a pollie we have ever had the misfortune to be foisted upon us in OZ. With apologies to Gough and Cairns!
     
  3. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    I'd be careful calling the pot black, I have a triple major in science unfortunately I'm a lazy speller but at least I was willing to put my time and money where my mouth was
     
  4. Oxyboy

    Oxyboy New Member

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    LOL, a tripple major in science! Wow wee.

    I did science in year 11....:fart:
     
  5. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Good for you, you can tell your an educated man by the quality of your answers and reasoning.
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Bugger that should be you're not your.
     
  7. Oxyboy

    Oxyboy New Member

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    LOL, she's right, i dont realy give 2 hoots about speeling a grama mistakes.

    ;)
     
  8. concetta

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    People like you are the reason, Because your Obsession with bagging Kevin Rudd, blinds you to the fact that the labor thugs, are much more to blame for Labors downfall than Rudd was.
    Rudd was removed because he didn't give a hoot, to the self serving power brokers, which plague the labor party today.
    Is it any wonder Rudd did not let them lead in anyway, take a look at Labors polls today, take a look at their failed policies, have a good look at some of the incompetent pollies representing our country. So what if Rudd lost his temper at a poor defencless girl, got anymore nit picking news to tell.
    He is preferred PM by a long shot, so your opinions are in the minority, The self serving power brokers, Julia, and their partners in crime, plus the media pissed Rudds popularity down the toilet, Now its all come out in the wash, That is why Rudd is polling so well today, Rudd wasnt the problem it was his team, that instead of being of help to him choose to discredit him, They were in talks with America about sacking him a year before they did.
     
  9. axialturban

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    I think the media built Rudd up to begin with, and it was Rudd that pulled himself unwittingly down in popularity terms. I dont know whether it was because the media built him up as something he wasnt or he just didnt handle the power and prestige (LOL) of being PM so well. I'd agree its hard to look calm and in control when you've got so much irky union machinations going on behind your back.... so you might be right.
     
  10. Oxyboy

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    LOL, ok that's your sob story. Dry your eyes, Rudd was election poison and they dumped him.
     
  11. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    The voters want Rudd back, and Julia had better watch her back.
     
  12. aussiefree2ride

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    Rudd was shafted in a typical low life style, this loss of respect, and the pathetic performance of the present gaggle, must work in Rudd`s favor. However, particularly considering the broard contempt for the present fed gov, we possibly tend to dilute the memory of how bad the Rudd gov was.
     
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    I dont love any politician but i must admit Rudd did something that no other world leader did and that is he pumped $42 billion dollars into the Australian economy by handing out money to the Australian people and creating new projects.

    What did other world leaders do, they simply gave it to those greedy bankers, how stupid they were, now they are all in the red and sinking fast.

    Credit where credit is due, i didnt agree with everything Rudd had planned for but this one act really won me over.

    Maybe thats why he isn't PM anymore??

    I think Julia is the bankers golden girl, especially if she is rubbing shoulders with that war criminal Tony Blair another golden boy.

    Julia will give them a carbon tax by burning the shirts of Australian workers, for them that means carbon credit farming and a new game on the stock exchange.

    Hey boys aren't we forgetting something here, what happened to cleaning up the planet FFS.
     
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    Rudd`s vote buying "stimulus packages" were squandered on plasma TVs and poker machines. This measure had merit for a short term financial crisis, but was an incompetant waste as the crisis has been extended which was expected from the outset, is now obvious. The stimulus money could have been better spent in a multitude of other ways if managed properly. Rudd realised that his government wern`t capable of managing projects, so he took the easy way out, just gave the money away.

    You must have forgotten how Rudd used our money to place guarantees for the major banks, thereby stifling competition from smaller lending institutions?
     
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    Rudd guaranteed the deposits within the banks not the banks themselves, so if you had $50 deposit and the bank folded you would get your money back.

    Alot of people criticise Rudd for handing the stimulus package to the people of Australia through money gifts and projects.

    Would you prefer he gave it to the banks?

    Like most of the other world leaders did, so the bankers can raise their already generous salaries and bonuses, in the mean time they would not have leant anymore money to the people than they were already lending, as recent history has shown the banks run economies these days and do as they please.

    If that isn't throwing money down the drain i dont know what is.
     
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    "Rudd guaranteed the deposits within the banks not the banks themselves, so if you had $50 deposit and the bank folded you would get your money back."

    A: Obviously what I meant, and in practice, the same thing.

    "Alot of people criticise Rudd for handing the stimulus package to the people of Australia through money gifts and projects"

    A: A blatant vote buying bribe, and a pathetic waste of our money. This money should have been spent on infrastructure.

    "Would you prefer he gave it to the banks?"

    A : it`s a toss up between the banks and the pubs, both stupid. Other countries were in much different circumstances than us, different problem, different solution.
     
  17. Adultmale

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    Did you see Wayne Swan on the box last night saying that Australia never had a recession!!
    He just admitted that all the Labor states and cardboard Kev, were lieing to us when they used the recession as an excuse for their appalling economic management.
     
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    The truth can be inconvenient, not only has Australia not had bad economic management under the Labor government but recognised as the worlds best.
     
  19. Oxyboy

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    LOL

    Europe!!!

    Too funny.
     
  20. ian

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    Yeh, too funny. The worlds strongest economy under a Labor government. Im not surprised there isnt any intelligent rebuttal here from our resident whingers because there isnt really anything else to say. The current Labor government is presiding over the most successful economy in the western world. FACT
     
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    Bit of sleazy spin there old mate, they may be presiding over it but Labor TOOK OVER the most successful economy in the western world. They have since dragged it down someways from where it was.
     
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    You have a very short and selective memory, don't you.

    You seem to forget the 10 years where the Australian Government benefitted from the biggest mining boom in history - yet what did we have to show for it? Nothing really. Failing national infrastructure, no national broadband network, and 10 years of vote-buying tax-cuts and "baby bonuses" to the middle class.

    The Howard Government inherited the economic reforms of Hawke/Keating and then sat back as the cash rolled in. And did they use that cash for anything useful? No. They gave it away to buy votes and follow the USA into illegal wars.
     
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    Which economy was this? Could you provide something to support your statement. I don't recall Costello ever recieving the same award that Swan and Keating received.
     
  24. axialturban

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    You know the one that rode out the Asian economic meltdown, tackled and won the security challenges of post 9/11, stopped the boats, increased funding across the board, made important purchases of military equipment, introduced huge taxation reform which fuelled the economic success which will always be credited to Costello no matter how much spin the ALP cheerleaders throw up. The ALP has done nothing positive for the Australian economy in the slightest since taking office 4 years ago. PS the broadband network isnt finished yet, would have been finished quicker under the Liberals plan and by the time the ALP's broadband plan is finished we will probably have wireless just as fast with the benefit of mobility.
     
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    Curtin spent most of WW2 sick as a dog and yet he's generally regarded as our greatest PM.
     

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