Noah’s Ark just got more unbelievable.

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  1. MisLed

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    doing the work of satan.
     
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    Exactly.. fundamental passions leave no room for study or contemplation..or even understanding of God. The 9-11 high jackers are a perfect example.. Tolerance and compassion give way to a rigid, cold superiority.

    Like Baruch Goldstein in Isael.. Same thing.

    This dark side of religion has shown its face again and again throughout history.. Christians certainly have had MORE than there fair share of it.
     
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    Yes, christians have always been persecuted terribly. Nero used them as human torches to light up his night parties. And even men, who infiltrated the church did the work of their master. And surely there have been misdirected confused believers.

    Still, Christians are NOT doing these things today. Someone is...and i think you know whom i mean. Now, there is word about some mexican death cult, maybe just as bad as Islam. It is a scary world and I'm sure Christians and Christ will suffer for it. It's prophecy. You know. In the bible?
     
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    No question that Nero persecuted and killed Christians and Christians in turn slaughtered Muslims and Jews and Aztecs and American Indians and Cathars.. and burned witches and fought Protestants.

    There was NEVER any prophesy in the Bible that was over 200 years into the future..

    Time to study some first century history..
     
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    I know because I am of God. I have trusted Christ and have the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of God in me gives me to know the Bible is the Word of God.

    God did not give the genealogies for the purpose of finding a date. Therefore you cannot find a date by using them. Calculate all you want. But your answer will not give you a date.

    Well, if a bear is on the ark, and a bear is let out of the ark, then he walked or swam. Whether the same bear made it back is immaterial. Bears would distribute themselves naturally.

    God gives people lies to believe who rejet His truth. Such as you and others on this forum. The truth is the written Word of God, the Bible.

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    And who are you duping?

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    Indeed. Yet I believe we are poor company for them.

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    You really shouldn't make these empty statements. There is much Bible prophecy that is yet to be fulfilled in the Old Testament.

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    Most of it was fulfilled before Jesus was even born.. That's why it helps to study history and KNOW when scripture was written..

    It helps to know what a prophet actually was.. He was not a fortune teller.

    It helps to know that MOST prophesy was written after the fact..

    It also helps to read Revelation in context..

    John of Patmos was writing in 90 AD to the seven churches .. NOT to American Christians 2000 years into the future.
     
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    Sorry. Your very mistaken. Much was fulfilled in Jesus Christ's first coming. Much remains to be filled.

    Yes, it does help.

    Silly statement. If a prophecy is written after the fact, its not a prophecy, its history.

    Context is always good. Since when does that affect your hermanuetics?

    The book of Revelation is a book of prophecy. It is for the Church and concerns the last days.

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    Prophets were not foretelling the future.. they were social commentators.. They were the conscience of the people.

    The Book of Revelation was written to the seven churches to remind them that the Word had won.. They had survived the tribulation and a new age had arrived.

    The NEW JERUSALEM, a spiritual kingdom had arrived.
     
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    Prophets did address the events of the day. And in doing so, they gave future prophecies.

    When you say 'the Word had won' you mean Jesus Christ who was raised from the dead, correct?

    The tribulation has not yet occurred. Neither has the Millennial Kingdom. Your very confused.

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    Yes, the Tribulation was OVER in 73 AD..

    The WORD had won because the Temple was destroyed and the Christians were vindicated. The convoluted old laws and purification rituals were history.. Blood sacrifice was history.

    The prophesies that you claim weren't fulfilled yet were fulfilled long before Jesus was born.. that's why its important to study history.

    John of patmos was writing directly to REAL people.. not to 2000 years into the future..

    Only charlatans seeking MONEY pursue the heresy of trying to superimpose ancient events on Russia or the ME or the US and recast the future in that way.

    You should certainly know by now that Gog and Magog invaded Syria-Palestine 300 years before Christ.
     
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    Sorry. The Tribulation has not yet started.

    Is the 'Word' the resurrected Jesus Christ, the Son of God?

    No. Jesus Christ fulfilled many prophecies. And Jesus Christ will yet fulfill more when He returns the 2nd time.

    John was writing to real people of both then and now. Yes, some 2000 years into the future.

    Thats not true. Those who understand the Bible and prophecy recognize these events are future.

    Sorry, didn't happen.

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    Indeed there is much valid history in the Bible, and science recognises this validity.

    This does not change the fact that the flood story has been invalidated.

    Bless your heart as well .. and may your mind be blessed to see the truth so that you may be set free !
     
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    If you want to develop a good understanding of the works of Satan, try learning the history of the Catholic Church.
     
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    Indeed. Where there is history in the Bible it is valid. And the flood is history.

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    Why?

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    Ignoring history, science, geology, archaeology, and logic is denial.

    Citing no evidence for your claim but still repeating it over and over again does not help your case.
     
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    Over 1000 years of genocide, murder, torture, rape, persecution of Jews (Gods chosen people), lies, injustice, blasphamy, and other evil deeds.

    No where in history can we find any institution been more anti-Christ for such a long period of time.
     
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    I ignore it when it contridicts the Bible. As I said before, your the one that will have to change your position constantly. As science has to change its findings constantly. My position won't change.

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    Your opinions are exactly what is wrong with the world today. When something comes up you don't agree with you stuff your head in the sand.
     
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    You find that in human governments also.

    To be guilty of wrong doings or sins is not what is 'anti-Christ'.

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    Sorry. But believing the Bible and knowing what you believe is true is not stuffing your head in the sand.

    And, if I am right concerning the Bible, which I am, then its your opinions that are what is wrong with the world today.

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    The bible is a random collection of fairy tales concocted by a consortium of religious oligarchs that was used to control people in the early fourth century. It is a joke and a lie that many people need to get over.
     
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