How Rich Are the Poor in the USA?

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  1. injest

    injest New Member

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    he won't source it because it isn't true. He can claim he read something in a book somewhere...doesn't exactly convince me at all.
     
  2. injest

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    Well the same goes true for many whites in rural America. I guess it's not a cultural thing but a social thing. Poor people are poor regardless of what color they are. I'm just curious, do you know how much someone pays for their braids? Also, when I was in court evicting a tenant here in Atlanta, there sure were an awful lot of white folk being evicted as well.
     
  4. Dan40

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    According to black women themselves, they say their hairdos cost $200 to $300 dollars. And black men get those 'do's as well. I'd venture there is not 10 white men in the nation, if ONE, that has a $300 dollar DO.
    And you saw "an awful lot of white people being evicted as well." In Atlanta if you saw 60 whites and 40 blacks being evicted. You saw more blacks than whites since blacks do not make up 40% of the Atlanta population.
     
  5. ATL Sam

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    I am a black man and I have never met a woman (black or otherwise) that spent $200 on their "do" and I've known a lot of gorgeous, vain women. And most black men I know spends about as much as white men (maybe less) on their "do". So please leave the welfare queen stories with that old dead guy named Reagan.

    And actually blacks make up 60% of the population in Atlanta so once again you are LOUD and wrong.
     
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    http://www.blackdemographics.com/atlantablackdemographics.html

    1.7 million
    Number of Black residents who call the 10-county Atlanta region home as of 2010, comprising roughly 35 percent of the total population. Nationally, Blacks comprise 13.4 percent of the total population.

    Are they lyin' to me?

    And I guess I know some 'tonier' black women than you do.
     
  7. ATL Sam

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    The city of Atlanta is not comprised of 10 counties. Get your facts straight.

    http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/13/1304000.html

    Let me know when you're ready to say something else you have no idea about.
     
  8. Dan40

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    Tell black demographics to get their facts straight. They seem to think 10 counties make up the Atlanta region.

    2010 Census figures indicated a population of 420,003 – 22.4% lower than 2009 estimates of 540,921.[153] The huge difference between the 2010 official count and the 2009 estimates caused many to question the reliability of the 2010 count, including Atlanta mayor Kasim Reed.[154]

    According to the 2010 census, the racial composition of the city of Atlanta was as follows:

    Black or African American: 54.0%
    White: 38.4% (Non-Hispanic Whites: 36.3%)
    Asian: 3.1%
    Native American: 0.2%
    Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 0.0%
    Some other race: 2.2%

    And HOW many, in exact percentages, not bullsh!t opinions is "an awful lot of whites being evicted."

    Put a number on your 'claim.'
     
  9. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Proof positive why someone should read all the posts up to date before they quote.
     
  10. ATL Sam

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    So you admit that you have no knowledge about what you just posted. I said an awful lot of whites. I never said most of the people there were white. Did you expect me to count the number of people there? Like I said, there were a lot of whites. In fact, I almost took a picture to show my friends that it's not just blacks not paying rent in this economy. You and your kind are the ones that like to stereotype minorities as poor, uneducated leeches on society.
     
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    You shouldn't assume I was excluding any particular race.
     
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    Lowden Clear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were you talking to me or Dan?
     
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    Lowden Clear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On a lighter note, my daughter's soccer team had a food drive last night to help stock the local food pantry. Several parents on the team had at one time or another used the food bank to help them get by. The community filled three picnic tables full of food and $137 leaped from pockets to support those less fortunate. The girls used soccer cones like firemen use a boot and they put their heart and soul into it. It was something to see. Fun to be part of that.

    Efforts like that used to be more common in the old days before the government stepped in to be an agent for giving.
     
  14. injest

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    well we ALL know that only Black people have braided hair...I think it's the law...:fart:
     
  15. injest

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    yes, charity means a lot more when it's you doing the actual giving rather than waving your hand and saying "Hey that's the government's job, I gave at the office"

    something that Progressives CAN'T understand and never will...

    Good job, you are raising a good kid!
     
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    Lowden Clear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks. The whole team is about teaching our kids in a well rounded way. The newspaper came out when they heard about it. That will inspire more to give to the food bank as well.

    When there is a direct exchange there is gratitude. When there is an agent (government) it creates a level of expectation. The simple gesture of having someone to thank perpetuates the spirit of giving. Without it expectation and resentment begin to foster, human interaction diminishes and it becomes a political issue used to create division and to create a demon.
     
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    You referred to minorities. That would most certainly exclude whites, right?

    Please read. Only an idiot would believe he was talking about Chinese people.
     
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    I named minorities with the issue of the police jobs because it specifically applies. I made no mention of minority or race in relation to the court issue. I'll chalk it up to an honest oversight on your part.
     
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    No one is trying to take anybody's stuff away. Drama queens, sheeeeesh.
     
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    In the USA some who make under $40k a year consider themselves the wealthy elite. Some wealthy who make over 6 figures a year claim they are middle class.

    Some who make $100k per year and spend every penny of it claim to be broke. So the answer to the OP question is, it depends on who you ask.
     
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    I guess my eyes work better than yours, and I had one eye knocked out and a detached retina but I still see better than you do. I see fat black people wearing DO's, Hilfiger logo clothes, and Air Jordan's or whatever the "hot" shoe is these days. And I see them buying food with food stamps and talking on their cell phones while people wait in line for them to conduct their business with some indication of common courtesy. All the while their fat kids are running a muck like wild beasts. And I see them buying cheap wine and Hennessy Very Superior Old Pale Cognac. A very strange combo.
    And I see them being pissed because they can't use food stamps for that.
    Some of us do not wear blinders to what goes on around us.
     
  22. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. 70% of America is white. You act as if poor white girls with 3-6 kids are too noble to collect "assistance". Blacks might collect it more disproportionately, but I guarantee what the poor whites are collecting adds up to triple. We have seriously problems as a society as a whole, playing the race game does nothing to fix these problems, and in effect, actually propagates them.

    And for the record...Hennessy V.S.O.P. rules.....
     
  23. Lowden Clear

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    I would hope that this thread doesn't go all racial. There are enough problems surrounding poverty that we don't need to go there. It won't help to better define or understand who is actually poor and who is not.
     
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    I agree. Was trying to help steer it another direction, doesn't always work though.
     
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    We can only try.

    The whole point of trying to understand this issue is how can people really be that poor if they are buying expensive personal things while collecting money from the government. Bronco brought up the resort areas and ATMs. I know people who are collecting money while running a side business, or faking back injuries for SSI checks. My personal favorite is when someone on food stamps tries to buy a lottery ticket and gets all pissed off that they can't.

    The examples go on and on. None of it helps the reputation of the poor. It is a wonder how people can take such advantage of tax payer money and not think twice about it. The whole system needs to be looked at.

    On the whole, I'd rather poverty was addressed without the government. At least without the Federal government. I'd rather people look each other in the eye, both the recipient and the one who gives, and an understanding comes between them.

    Back in the day folks would help each other raise a barn. It was an act of giving and it continued out into the community. It became clear real quick who would accept help but not in turn give it back. If you didn't help others to raise their barn they sure wouldn't show up to raise yours. It was a balance that was in everyone's best interest to keep. And the only way they could do it was to look each other in the eye. That way you could know each other's heart.

    These days it is as impersonal as a plastic debit card. You can not only hide behind it, you can buy all kinds of things with it that aren't good for you. Things that cause health problems that will later cost the tax payer even more. The ease and detachment of government money only makes the entitlement mentality grow stronger.
     

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