Are Jews "Chosen" ? Chosen by who ?

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  1. Bishadi

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    self chosen= arrogance and self righteousness

    they are religious adherants of judaism.......

    they are no different than any other human being.

    no they are not

    there are more 'people' that are of quality, than self serving, self chosen bigots.......

    the self chosen are the beasts of mankind.

    and that 'group' that is breeding into itself a class are almost like pharoah style folk that actually inbred they own families for the exact same reasoning; they thought they were special and over and above others.

    how many have read about them and thought how rediculous it is for a body of people to actually believe they better than others?
     
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    Religious people usually never read the source of their religion. Moses wasn't a Jew and neither was Jesus.
    They were Levites and the children of Israel were called the Hebrews, not Jews though that was a branch of the twelve tribes.
     
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    Jesus was a Jew.......what he wasn't was a Christian.

    I've always thought that what Jesus was about wasn't starting up another religion.....what he was about was trying to get the Jews back to actually taking some notice of what their religion expected of them.

    Just think, if he'd succeeded we'd not have Christianity, and therefore no Christian Zionists....and no Israel because that contradicts the Torah.

    I'd have been more than happy to lose Christianity from the world to get some peace in it.
     
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    Granny says dey's chosen by God...

    ... when Abraham obeyed God...

    ... an' when Moses turned to see God inna burnin' bush inna desert...

    ... an' dat's just the way it is...

    ... an' the way it's been...

    ... an' the way it gonna be...

    ... so get used to it.
    :fart:
     
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    God doesn't exist anywhere but the minds of the weak and terminally gullible.
     
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    Yeah, it's something called 'truth'. A word Zionists don't have in their lexicon.
     
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    Men created scrolls, men used ink and materials to write with, men created the biblical stories. If God has anything to do with it, then he'd be interfering with the enemies of Israel today, but clearly such is just that of fairy tales, although there is some wisdom in many holy writings, for people to put a belief or a religion above the life of another, is a sin against humanity.

    To treat others cruelly based on religious dogma is a sin for it's a selfish route in life to take to try and enter the "gates of heaven", at the detriment to others quality of life by trying to show how devout one can be, and thus should also be considered a sin against humanity.
     
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    ie.... basically, them bigots are the nasty their whole theology had been warning everyone about.


    the self 'chosen' are what sparks nuclear war
     
  9. Marlowe

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    A) The French + German might think it , but WE KNOW we're diabolically SPECIAL .

    B) Yanks might pretend being "special " but in their hearts there remains lingering doubts regading their origins. :)


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    Now see if you can tell the difference in thinking of oneself as special and religiously claiming to be CHOSEN BY GOD ALMIGHTY ( a god who now wisely remaining silent.) ???


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    The Tribulation was over in 73 AD.
     
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    The first "King of the Jews" was Herod the Great. He was chosen by J.C.:mrgreen:
     
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    Why approach a subject that in the OP where zero knowledge exists as the tyrade clearly demonstrates. Israel is the lynch pin of history. Everything happening there is prophecy being revealed before our very eyes.
     
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    what about the story of the house of david?

    didnt they have a whole bunch of kings in that story chain.


    you would think, if there were any kings of such there would be archeology

    but for some reason, their aint!
     
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    in a sense, i agree.

    The war of wars is over that tel megiddo (lil hill-the mount).

    The three horns (religions of abraham) will fall. (dan 7;8 )

    And to see ezekial and daniel directly, find that the city of jeruselem will be destroyed...............

    Then if you really want a bunch to read, try reading the bible as if a big book of prophecies and change the word babylon to jeruselem throughout the literature.


    the one that cracks me up is what is found in revelation about the 'beast' and 666, when i can brand anyone with 666 simply by using chemistry as the field of comprehension and rendering that carbon 12 is the isotope that everyone of us is living on. 6 neutrons, 6 protons, and 6 electrons (carbon)

    combine that with

    Revelation 22

    1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, bright as crystal, going forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb:

    2in the midst of its broad place, and of the river on this side and on that, [is] a tree of life, yielding twelve fruits, in each several month rendering its fruits, and the leaves of the tree [are] for the service of the nations;

    3and any curse there shall not be any more, and the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him,

    4and they shall see His face, and His name [is] upon their foreheads,


    Could knowledge be 'the name upon the forehead' (awareness)? So now you are branded with knowledge but not 'the name' just the awareness of what is coming.

    Now what if no one but one, knows the name. ie... the name of god being the math describing existence....?!?!?

    Then imagine if that idiot was born of june 1966 (6/66)

    Then if that prik is one hell of a nasty sob to liars...... ie... fighting for truth at the expense of any who steps off the path of truth (any who commits false witness)


    So NOW look at the big picture;

    israel is the place of bigotry (babylon)

    the war of wars (armegedon) is based on the conflict over the mount

    and the guy the globe is awaiting hates the hypocracy of the religious wingnuts.


    So the bible is just about spot on.


    and eventually once the cities are destroyed (global nuclear war) and people realign what is important (the puruit of life), the knowledge to enable all to equality with nature and existence itself (god itself), will actually unfold .............

    here in heaven (heaven on earth) (the garden/earth) for quite some time


    and remember the chosen are the ones that choose truth over BS


    and them judges so many fear (four horseman) are 'we the people' (mankind itself; four colors of mankind)


    zion/shamballa/house of knowledge, will be taos behind the pueblo in the untouched land. (the reason is the fallout will circle the earth and the higher elevations will not only reduce the exposure but fresh water from the headwater/snow caps)

    that is where the name, will be shared to the 12 (tribes) (3 from each color and a foot washer (13th))

    Some consider me a nut, but reason thru what has been said................ is it possible?

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    To be fair, all religions tend to believe they are the favored people of a god or gods.

    This isn't just a Jewish trait.
     
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    In the modern age, most of it is self-fulfilling prophecy.
     
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    Yes, but the main thing is to know the difference between the Houses of Israel and Judah, and the Jews. They aren't the same.
    A generation after the Judean Maccabees had successfully revolted against the Greeks, the Romans came as conquerors. After Roman General Pompey was defeated by Julius Ceasar, JC appointed Antipater, an Edomite who had helped Ceasar, as chief minister of Judea. From then on, the Edomites increased their control of Judea (under approval of the Romans, of course). Antipater's son Herod was appointed "King of the Jews" by the Roman Senate. These "Jews" were hated by the Judahites, and were referred to as "Those who call themselves Jews (Judeans) and are not." It was this Herod who finished additions to the second Temple, and who ordered the murder of the innocents after the visit by the Magi seeking the newborn "King of the Jews".
     
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    Yes, but the main thing is to know the difference between the Houses of Israel and Judah, and the Jews. They aren't the same.
    A generation after the Judean Maccabees had successfully revolted against the Greeks, the Romans came as conquerors. After Roman General Pompey was defeated by Julius Ceasar, JC appointed Antipater, an Edomite who had helped Ceasar, as chief minister of Judea. From then on, the Edomites increased their control of Judea (under approval of the Romans, of course). Antipater's son Herod was appointed "King of the Jews" by the Roman Senate. These "Jews" were hated by the Judahites, and were referred to as "Those who call themselves Jews (Judeans) and are not." It was this Herod who finished additions to the second Temple, and who ordered the murder of the innocents after the visit by the Magi seeking the newborn "King of the Jews". Those called Jews from Herod's time on were increasingly Idumean/Edomite, and not of Israelite origin.
     
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    The French

    the English.

    the Germans.
     
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    Travel through any British city and the very few Union Flags you'll see are being flown predominantly from government buildings-and even then only on civic occasions and royal wedding bullcrap.
    Frankly we tend to have better things to do than wave stupid flags around, pledge allegiances and sing dumb patriotic songs to try to convince ourselves how fantastic our country is.
     
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    Why do you ask me? You're the anti-semite. You should have this answer yourself.
     
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    My my, aren't we angry at nothing?
     
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    While that might PERHAP be true abt the ADHERENTS/BELIEVER/OBSERVERS - PIOUS FOLLOWERS of a certain faith. IMO - being favoured/blessed etc. is NOT quite the same as Jewish interpretation of be CHOSEN , which surprisingly is also hypocritically the attitude of "atheistic - Jews" i.e. those who do NOT follow/observe Judaic Laws - but still describe themselves as "JEWS" ..

    Which bring us back to the question - WHO or What is a "JEW" ?


    cheers.
     
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    Who asked you? And no, I'm not angry, merely amused at the child-like clinging to dumb symbols that Americans are so fond of.
     
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    If someone still believes they are chosen in some supernatural way while claiming to be atheist, they aren't really an atheist.
     

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