Are Jews "Chosen" ? Chosen by who ?

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  1. Bishadi

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    none of them are from israelite origin.

    israel did not exist in herods time. Israel was first born in 48.

    unless you have some archeology to share evidence of a different opinion.

    'we' all can poop tail mud, so dont use it. Tanach is not a document of history. But i am open to archeologically grounded material

    heck there is nothing to provide evidence that the wailing wall is even of jewish origin, that i know of.

    the sultan of the ottomans had more respect for that wall then any christians did and he was a muslim.
     
  2. Serfin' USA

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    It's hardly an American-only trait.

    A lot of Americans have a flag and Constitution fetish. A lot of British have a royal fetish.

    Basically, every society has certain ritualistic behaviors that defy logic, but that's because humans are rather illogical in general.
     
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    This matters only to Jews and American evangelicals. To say God has chosen one is as old a canard as there is in human history. Because it's in the bible makes it as irrelevant as the injunctions in Leviticus. Funny how many religions claim that God talked to their leader and thus it was so. I talked to God this morning and he said the Jewish claims are bogus, so that's the last word on it.......until he talks to someone else. And he told me he wouldn't.
     
  4. Marlowe

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    Zero knowledge ? Hmmm. I presume you're more knowledge , in which case why not enlighten us apart from your daft bit of twaddle abt Israel being a lynch pin + a "prophecy ". You mean a prophecy like Nostradamus ?


    :)
     
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    Actually I agree with the last paragraph, and the Royal Family fetish thing is a little disturbing. The only others who openly display our national flags tend to be the far-right uber-nationalist idiots like the former National Front, the English Defence League and the British National Party (National Front). Nazi bigots every last one of them. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=bn...tart=0&ndsp=6&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0&tx=145&ty=88
     
  6. Bishadi

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    i liked that post......

    thanx as i am still laughing.....................


    :date:

    reminded me of a tune.

    'what do you mean i dont believe in god,

    i talk to him everyday"

    'what do you mean, i'm not kind

    just not your kind'
     
  7. Bishadi

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    dont pic on the nostradude........ pic on the idiots.

    rermember nostradomus traveled as a doctor and perhaps saved more lives during the plague than any man alive;

    he taught them to bath!
     
  8. Marlowe

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    No problem . as long as it's not used to justify inflicting suffering on others, covering up human rights abuss and the injustices perpetrated by Zionist Jews against non-Jewish Palestinians.

    See the difference ?
     
  9. Marlowe

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    Oops - my apologies. from now on I'll sing his praise during shower time :)


    ...
     
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    Another hate thread, happy,happy little critters.
     
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    How is it that the US can invade countries for civil rights abuses and then turn around and support Israel? I, for one, wish they wouldn't send them my tax dollars. I could find many better ways to spend them.
     
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    I agree that those groups are pretty Nazi-like. I wouldn't say that having national pride in and of itself is a bad thing in moderation though.
     
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    Will you allow there is enough historical record to agree that Cyrus the Great, almost immediately after taking Babylon, allowed Ezra and a large contingent of Jews, protected/enforced by his Persian troops, to return to Jerusalem??

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_(Bible)
     
  14. Serfin' USA

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    Sure, I can agree with that, but I would point out that equivalent actions have been made by other groups as well.

    Quite a few Muslim nations aren't exactly human rights-friendly.
     
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    Agreed...

    10char
     
  16. Bishadi

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    i consider him pretty smaught to figure out that bathing could keep people from dying. Common sense tells us all, it will help keep the fleas off.

    maybe that is why baptism was so important 1500 yrs before. made you feel like a new man/women.
     
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    what hate is there in asking questions?

    ie.... why do you consider asking if 'jews' are chosen ones, is a hate thread?

    It aint hate to learn!

    unless you wear a helmit on your head

    for when you walk?!?!??
     
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    Apparently i'm a zionist but i don't justify theft and mass murder.
     
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    Zionist is a word that has been demonized somewhat.

    At its root, Zionism just means that you support the right for Israel to exist.

    Extreme Zionism is what people usually mean when they mention the term in a derogative sense.
     
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    then you aint what most consider a zionist
     
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    perhaps you have 32 people on your ignore list because you add them each twice. :bored: I can't imagine what you find so horrid about the post. THat i mention God and what is written in the Bible? That you want nothing interfering with your irrational hatred of Jews? okay. If you put me on ignore i'm confident i won't shrivvel up and die. Ignore away.
     
  22. Bishadi

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    that is the BS of demonization.

    sion tzion zion..... is the place or house of knowledge.

    kind of like shamballa to the east.


    now the zion of the wingnuts, is the fortress or even as 'holy of holies' as the temple is often considered (solomons; the mount)

    it is where messiah is supposed to come 'thru the gate'

    them are the idiots that created jeruselem. kind of like the jihadist of todays world; terrorist for their belief


    ie.... the pursuit of israel is based on the zionism foundations. they believe they must rebuild the temple of solomon, on the spot where the dome of the rock sits, rebuild the alter and sacrafice lambs before messiah comes.


    it is basically the wingnut side of the whole tailmud judaism............

    anyone can read up on it as they choose

    and anyone who claims to be a zionist and believes they have a right to open up zion (the house of knowledge) without the name of 'god' (the math) are stoned cold idiots

    only one idiot be that idiot

    the rest are just about stupid, perhaps just misled with ignorance
     
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    and satan thru his currently best loved religion, Islam, has walled up that gate and put a cemetery in the way. Anything to prevent the inevitable second coming of the Lord.
     
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    I would interpret that example you just shared as..

    The true enemies of man is man his self. We are living in a world where this is shown time and time again, and there's that saying, man's worst enemy is himself.

    We don't need saints for people to be charitable, kind and tolerant, we don't need devils when people can be cruel, violent and completely disgusting to other people.

    I'd say evil is winning right now and has been for a long time, and it will take drastic changes in the globe to set about a new popular positive human movement with real legitimacy and influence, although by nature humans like the beast in the forest is inclined to think about no.1 first, it's a mentality deriving possibly from more primitive aspects of human nature, which originally evolved from the instincts of animals, living in a world of kill or be killed, but we can evolve. Whether we will or not, that's to be seen.

    People should consider long term affects of their actions more, than the immediate gratification they gain from behaving immorally or selfishly, they still usually die unhappy.
     
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    for centuries and centuries the "chosen people" myth had yet to appear. In the early 1900's ,with the publishing of the Scofield reference bible, Christians fell hook,line,and sinker for yet another Jew scam


    JEWS are Asiatic,only %1.58 are Semitic...after all common sense would tell someone that. Nevertheless Jews set out to prove their lineage,and race origin....

    One of the few trusted sources of truth for Jews is the Jewish Encyclopedia
    1901-1905 editions reveal a study of 3,000 JEWS FROM AROUND THE WORLD
    This study on Jews ,by Jews clearly indicates they come from Anatolia,modern day Turkey

    Only % 1.58 of Jews actually come from the region they claim is theirs, basically the ol "anti-Semitic" is just a weapon to keep the Goy in line,and it works well....notice that there will be brainwashed people posting ridiculous replies about "hate" or "racist", "Nazi"...ect...this just shows how good they are at brainwashing people.

    After all everyone knows how many Jews died in the Holocaust, but few know how many 10's of millions of Christians the Jews slaughtered in the Soviet Union...you see,communism was predominately JEWS.


    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/hittites.htm
     

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