Are Jews "Chosen" ? Chosen by who ?

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  1. Seraph

    Seraph New Member

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    If one reads the old testament but replaces the word ‘god’ with ‘the devil’ it makes a lot more sense.
    You might think I'm being anti something or other or just silly but try it, it really works.
     
  2. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    That is why being the leader or chosen people is very difficult it comes with great responsibilties and tough dicision making, many tribes and nations wants to destroy Israel either by military force or by breeding them out. In fact, Moses and Josuah were caught in a difficult situation that they had to consult God and God made the tough dicision for them.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Technically that is what Satan wants to happen, that is why if one does not read the Bible or reads the Bible and fail to understand it they will misinterprete it as devil's book.:pray:
     
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    I can agree that a lot of the leaders who self-identify as Zionists have done some awful things, but the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one where it seems like there is no good guy. There are extremists on both sides that have hijacked the situation, which is why it seems like there is no solution.

    Granted, recognizing Palestine as a state might force things to change for the better.
     
  5. Marlowe

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    Oh ! please spare me the Moses + Joshua tribal BS - its myths - fairy tales. IMO - The Modern day Zionist entity has sweet f-all to do with ancien Israel

    20th Century "Israel " is based on Herzl's "DER JUDENSTAAT " and
    ZIONISM - an ideaology founded by a gang of atheists , who hijacked part of Judaism at a time when Europe's Jews was desparate enough to swallow + go along with WZO's crap.



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    As we all know - to every action there's a reaction . it took many years before some Palestinian formed resistance groups like Hamas , many years of being victims of zionist Jewish terrorists gangs - i.e. LEHI/IRGUN/Haganah/Palmach and finally IDF .

    Enough is Enough . Palestinian took it for many years and finally (without Airforce + sophisticated weapons / resorted to the only means available . Palestinians have a legitimate right to resist Israel's military occupation .

    bedtime here - g'nite (wink)
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  7. Seraph

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    Deuteronomy 20:16
    But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee [for] an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth
     
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    I wondered how long it would take for someone to get to the heart of the matter.

    The Jews were chosen thousands of years ago to introduce the world to God's will and to deliver to the world a Savior.

    Some might say, having accomplished this goal, they've served their purpose. Others believe that they will also play a role in the "end times".

    Further, having denied the Prophet that was sent, one might say that the Jews are getting their payment (via wealth, awards, etc noted earlier) on this side, as, in denial, they will not be rewarded on the other side.

    No matter what one believes regarding their position in religious matters, "chosen-ness" never implied superiority; in fact, the Jews have had their foibles used as exemplars throughout their history.
     
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    All I know is the scriptures say God will bless those who bless Israel. Scripture also says all of the earth will be blessed because of Israel. I notice a lot of Jews winning Nobel Prizes over the years.
     
  10. WanRen

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    How ironic you ask or make fun of the Bible in relation to Israel and when I give you an answer you think it is a joke.

    Zionism is just an excuse by anti Israelis elements to destroy Israel, with out Zionism, it is Jews, without Jews it is Hebrews with out Hebrews it is Israelis.

    Thanks to Zionist, Israelis were able to regain their homeland, and they only claim the land that was promise to them by God, they didn't claim Mecca, Sudan, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, New York or any where else in the world only the tiny spot that is Palestine and Jerusalem finally came back to them.
     
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    That's called passing the buck....which is what people in power do when they are not fit to be in power!
     
  12. Oddquine

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    The free will codswallop used as an excuse by God followers for the continuing deteteriaration of life.kinda begs the question as to how he managed the plagues etc when saving those who became the Jews from the Egyptians.

    God appears to be little different to most politicians..as in doing the easy stuff and leaving other people to deal with the crap they have, by their arrogance/inaction landed on others.....and the crap he has currently landed on the rest of us are "the Chosen People" to which he seems to have handed overweening arrogance as a mindset and completely forgotten to add any leavening of humanity.

    Given he has shown he has the power to change things by aflick of his fingers...makes one wonder if he isn't sitting up there enjoying the mess he has allowed the world to become...and if he is then he undoubtedly is Satan. .or a nasty bugger who does not deserve to be worshipped by anyone.

    My sig line on another forum is

    Epicurus - "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

    and that says it all for me.
     
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    Chosen by the God of the Abrahamic faiths.
     
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    can you support that claim?

    without religious beliefs!
     
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    I'm not religious at all; I guess I was just stating it from the religious point of view.
     
  16. Bishadi

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    I understand.

    Do you believe 'god' would choose another over YOU? (if there was such a choice)
     
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    LOL Is that the Gospel According to Fogs? sorry couldn't resist
     
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    I'm sure he would. I'm lazy, boring, and awkward. : P
     
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    Chosen to be God's representatives on Earth, then cursed for being dickheads.
     
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    I have never said anything negative about Jews... I have expressed my disgust and revulsion towards Zionists like yourself. All Jews arent Zionists,
    Your refusal to acknowledge that doesnt give your claim any footing. The only weakling here that called me a Jew-Hater is you. Its your fallback to absolve yourself of of the stupidity of your delusion...A typical Zionist tactic .. "allways play the anti-semite card against the enemies of the Zionist agenda". All Jews arent Zionists... I understand that... you refuse to ackowledge it so you can cry foul to anybody who disagrees with your hypocrisy. Goebbels would be proud of you.


    LOL .. your not trying to establish your claim to being superior to me... by pointing out that you veiw me as an inferior.... hahaha!!! your so deluded you have forgotten where your hypocrisy starts .. caught in a loop ..

    Hey.. you are the best here at what you do... just like this is the best at what it does[​IMG]


    Have fun my virus freind. You are now on ignore. I wont miss anything you post.. there are plenty like you that spew the same garbage.
     
  21. Bishadi

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    Apparently capable of personal assessment too.

    Not all bad, in comparison to some.
     
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    Ummmm... no... its not... Omnipotent will include omniscient... due to all powerful thing.. you cant be omnipotent without being omniscient.

    Your just stating opinion. One could argue the opposite with the same "facts"
     
  23. WanRen

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    Wrong, it is call consulting your boss, and God made the deicison because thos etribes the Amorites, Canaanites were all ploting to wipe out Israel either by force or by imbreeding.
     
  24. Bishadi

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    egyptian rulers had been inbreeding for generations

    the monotheism of judaism is an egyptian belief system

    the inbreeding perhaps is a family tradition
     
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    You are confusing the Israelites of the Old Testament with the Jews of the New Testament and today. they are more nearly opposites than identicals. Suggest you learn the difference. Learn the History of John Hyrcanus and then of Antipater and Herod the Great to learn who the Jews of the time of Christ and later actually were.
     

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