U.S. Marines, Including Lesbian Couple, Discharged After Faking Marriages

Actually the Marine official policy states E-4 and higher and a billet occupation rate of 95% or higher. It also states that the MC has a policy that E1-E3 are to share a room and bathroom for building esprit-de-corps

I have no idea when you served in the USMC, but I have plenty of friends and relatives who served in your particular branch who lived off base as singles on their own dime. When I went back to the language institute in Monterey in 1985 I was living off post with two marines who were in my class despite all three of us maintaining billets on post.

From what I found out from a friend still in the MC, unless your particular post or barracks has an MCO against "ghosting" [maintaining a billet and living off post] they cannot require your presence in the barracks. Indeed, most information I have been reading suggests that E-4 and above can be given special BAH compensation if the commander feels they exhibit the maturity and fiscal responsibility to move off post.

We're at loggerheads. You suggest the party is hijacked by the religious right. I believe they are hijacked by progressives. Although Republican progressives are slower to make change, given enough time they get to the same place as the far more radical Democrat Party progressives. There is very little difference between parties.

 

Civil unions are not equal to marriage. That is why they are called civil unions.

 

Carrots are not equal to Broccoli...but they're both vegetables.

Civil unions afford the same legal recognition and preferential government treatment as those labeled "marriages"

Get government out of the marriage business, and this stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)ing argument would die on the vine.

 

But they do not. Civil unions do not afford couples the same rights as marriage. Never has, and never will.

 

And why should they? We can prove heterosexuality is genetic while homosexuality cannot.

Why do you insist on equal status when one cannot be proven to be anything more than a choice conscious or unconscious?

 

This is more than a stretch. DADT is over, they aren't getting kicked out because of their sexuality, they could announce themselves as a couple. Now, they could have lived on base. It would have been harder, but they had the option of it. They chose to defraud the government. They are in the wrong.

 

Riiight. Link to prove that we have pinned down that heterosexuality is genetic?

Let's see you back up that statement.

 

Easily.

There is a biological reaction to sexual stimuli for all people gay or straight. The body prepares for procreation. Natural procreation requires heterosexual sex.

Now, explain to all of us if homosexuality is genetic why does the body produce reproductive material when the very distribution of that material requires heterosexual sex.

Go on, I'd love to see you try and BS your way around it.

 

You just explained that ones body reacts to sexual stimuli.

Nothing posted pertained to the genetic predisposition of one sexual orientation or another.

The bodies of heterosexuals and homosexuals react the same way during sex.

So thanks for clearing up the fact that you don't have anything backing your statement.

 

LOL Of course it did.

How else does the body know how to react if it isn't genetics? Wanna explain your BS?

You are only making my point for me.

I knew you couldn't explain it. Don't worry none of the pro gay marriage folks can because its sex ed 101. Your sad attempt to deflect didn't work. You can't explain why the body reacts this way for any other reason than genetic.

Unless of course you think procreation itself isn't genetic.

Is that what you think chuckles?

 

Then why do the bodies of heterosexuals and homosexuals react the same way during sex?

They both must be genetic then. Thanks for making my case.

You have pointed out physical reactions to being sexually stimulated. These reactions occur in heterosexual and homosexual pairings, regardless of procreation taking place, regardless of actual sexual penetration taking place. In other words, these are reactions to a sexual act, regardless of the act taking place. Nothing you've posted has anything to do with sexuality being genetic.

You're only displaying the fact that you have no idea what your talking about.

Yes, a gay man reacts to another mans touch. Glad you pointed that out.

 

If your point was true, why do women react to sexual stimulus when they are unable to conceive, either by the time of the month, or after they have reached menopause?

Your assumed tight linkage between sexuality and procreation is actually genetically quite weak, particularly in humans. Various stimuli, connections, associations, feelings and sharing go on between many parts of the herd of humanity.

Scientifically, sexuality is CLEARLY not exclusively an act of procreation, it is an act of bonding among individuals.

And the same is true in various other parts of the animal world, too.

You might really try to leave the stone age scientifically, it is really nice out here.

 

LOL Are you really this slow? The reaction is the same for both. The result however only favors one result. Procreation which requires heterosexual sex. How do you continue to miss this?

You can't be this stupid. Its simply not possible. The reactions are the same for both but the reason for the reaction has only one conclusion. Procreation through heterosexual sex. You can't get around the facts slick.

Its really pathetic watching you duck the questions I posed to you over and over again.

hahahahaha Denial aint a river genius. His reaction is to sexual stimuli. Its what his body does and why it does it.

2rd time. Why do homosexuals produce genetic reproductive material if the distribution of that material is for procreation which requires heterosexual sex?

Are you going to run away again like a coward or are you going to answer it this time?

Come back when you are ready for big boy debating.

 

For the same reason as before. The body is naturally a gentically drawn to procreate.

The result never changes. The body is preparing for procreation and the only natural way to procreate is through heterosexual sex.

How people view it is irrevelant. The result is still the same as far as what the body is trying to do.

Gotta love how predicable liberals are. They can't explain why homosexuals even produce reproductive material when the only way to distribute it is though a heterosexual act yet they duck and weave as much as possible to get around that pesky fact.

Checkmate

 

This has zero to do with gay marriage.

These contract marriages have been going on longer than I've been alive, usually perpetrated by straights. It's fraud, but those sort of situations almost always ended disastrously for the people participating, so there is some justice.

 

Really? Got any facts? Especially comparing your suggestion of contract marriages "always ending up disastrously" compared to marriages made for all the "regular" reasons, many of which are quite insane and bizarre reasons for a "lifetime" contract?

 

More lesbian women had a bad day.

Good.

 

How about answering my post to you Dave

 

These lesbians didn't invent marriage fraud and I'm sure this story would not have made the papers had they been straight.

 

Just my observations from 23 years in the military.

Maybe you had different observations from your time in the military?

 

lol they frauded the government out of money, usually stories like this make the news one way or another especially considering its military.

 

Same sex marriage--not gay marriage. Same sex marriage does not and cannot require that the two parties actually have sex or even be sexually attracted to each other. How could it? How are you going to police it?

Same sex marriage makes the union one purely of convenience. Not just gays and lesbians, but savvy raging heterosexual military members will, in time, marry one another just for the benefits and only for as long as it is convenient for both of them. They'll continue to date and have sex with partners of the opposite sex.

Don't think it will happen? Just watch.

When everything is marriage, nothing is marriage.

 

What you're failing to miss is that the reactions are the same for heterosexuals and homosexuals. The stages of arousal are the same. However they are reacting to the gender they find arousing, not to the idea that they are about to procreate.

Sorry, apparently you are dumber than I expected.

The couple are reacting to sexual stimuli, what they find attractive in the other person. They become aroused by their partner, not the idea of having a child.

It seems you labor under the idea that humans have a mating season or some such.

There we have it. It is a reaction to the sexual stimuli. A gay male reacts to a man. A heterosexual male reacts to a woman. The reactions are physical, the attraction is genetically based.

Why wouldn't they have genetic reproductive material? Their physiology is the same as a heterosexual, the only difference is that they are attracted to the same sex.

Do you honestly believe that heterosexuals are attracted to one another because of their propensity to reproduce? Do they have sex for the sole purpose of reproduction?

Do you honestly believe sex is not for pleasure?

You really do show your ignorance of the psychology and physiology of sex.

 

Why should we reward people with a mental disorder? We have turned normal into abnormal and abnormal into the norm. Good is now called evil and evil is now called good.

 

Answering WHAT?

You make a continuing claim of nonsense.

Sexual connection has some involvement with emitting sperm, but so does knotholes for horny teenagers to whom the crack of dawn inspires them to emit reproductive materials! It has NO involvement with women's egg production.

Sex also is involved in wanting pizza and a cigarette. Maybe THAT is the Purpose?

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Sperm: "What if he's masturbating? I'm liable to end up on the ceiling!"