Obama Campaign Pokes Fun At Birthers; Now Selling Birth Certificate Mugs!

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  1. bottle

    bottle New Member

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    Stupid *******s these cups are obviously fakes. Bet they were made in Kenya too :mrgreen:
     
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    I hope that's not because we have judges who don't want to be seen doubting a President.


    And what you say is one reason why ridicule seems to work when trying to control people's behavior.
     
  3. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    No. It means Obama hasn't been proven not to be an American. Inocent until proven guilty. You can't just go around having witch hunts with no evidence. If you don't even have enough evidence to start a trial how on earth do you think you'll prove he's not an American? Pathetic.
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    It's mainly because Obama has official documents backing his citizenship up. And birthers need to have conflicting evidence to start a trial. Which they do not. They have no evidence whatsoever.

    You can't just go making random accusations and expect the court to move at your whim. You need evidence to start a trial.
     
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    I think you mean "yes" because you only repeated the same thing I just said.

    But when it comes to the legitimacy of a national leader like the presidency there cannot be any doubts.

    So innocent until proven guilty is not good enough.

    No one can force Obama out of office but he will never be fully respected or accepted as a real American either.
     
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  7. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    No I didn't. You said Obama is obligated to prove he is an american. That is incorrect. You are obligated to prove he is not. Obama has all the documents this country accepts as proof of citizenship. It is up to you to prove those documents wrong with conflicting documents. Only then will you ever have a trial. And birthers will never get that because it doesn't exist.
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Birthers are insulting to birthers. Few things instantly label you as amongst the dumbest people in America as saying the words "Obama never proved he is a citizen"

    Birthers are dumb. And anyone that takes them seriously is dumb.
     
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    spiderman i like you and you make good comments. but because this is of a political nature, the non believers should endeavor to make the birthers comfortable and welcome at the table of discussion. too often people are quick to judge. there are a lot of people looking at this, and evidence is always coming out.
    it's a trainwreck. but traditionaly in america we let these things run their course. as long as reasonable intelligent people have concerns and doubts, they should be respected.

    perhaps non believers could start local chapters in their own neigborhoods.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it doesn't come in a 40oz version how do they expect to get the requisite votes to actually win an election?
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    First of all my avatar isn't spider-man. It's Deadpool.

    2nd of all this isn't religion. It's politics. And you need evidence to have a respected political opinion.
     
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    washingtonamerica.com Banned

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    are you a poli sci major ?
     
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    This ^^^^^^!
     
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    Wrong.

    The standards for proof of citizenship at birth do not require judicial review. They were outlined by the US State Department decades ago, and the DOS is the single highest authority on the planet for settling issues of US citizenship.

    Obama's birth certificates (both the short and long forms) meet those standards perfectly.
     
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    Almost as dumb as buying a mug that validates their existence??? Bravo for liberal thinking...
     
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    Validates their existence? You guys sure have a weird method of proof. Birth Certificates don't actually prove birth and coffee mugs do prove existence. But wouldn't this mean that Obama's birth certificate is proven to exist because it is on a coffee mug? Or are you waiting for the long form coffee mug?
     
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    You are arguing with someone who thinks the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Try to be gentle.
     
  19. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    No. Computer Science.
     
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    the only guy in america not to see animal house.
     
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    are you good at it ? what do you want to do with it ? you certainly have a penchant for politics, and you write really well for being so young (assume your young). i didn't agree with what you said about occupy wall street, but you described your position well. have you looked at all of the birther case material/evidence?
     
  22. TheTaoOfBill

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    No. Politics aren't for me. Computer Science is where I want to be. I'm a decent writer but not much of a talker.

    But back on topic...Yes I have seen the so called evidence brought forth by the birther crowd. Mainly a lot of self professed experts looking to deeply into things. None of these experts ever release their names and credentials. And when they do it turns out their credentials aren't at all related to what they are trying to show.

    It goes on about JPG artifacts and layers, but in the end none of that matters because it's not enough to start a trial. It might be enough to make a few tin foil hatters a little suspicious but really the only thing that could bring Obama to trial is a conflicting document. A government sponsored document that conflicts with Obama's government sponsored.

    Right now Obama's evidence is WAY more compelling. Two government issued birth certificates and 2 newspaper birth announcements. The newspaper announcements are really just a bonus. Because all that is really needed are the birth certificates. They are government sponsored documents that say Obama was born in Honolulu Hawaii. This means that the government MUST consider these documents to be 100% true by law. Even if the president of Kenya came to America and said Obama was born in Kenya the courts would not accept it as evidence over government sponsored documents.

    The only thing that can prove a government sponsored document wrong is another conflicting government sponsored document.
     
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    They'll prolly sell as many of those as government motors sold the Chevy Volt.
    Did you place your order yet???
     
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    Are you calling me a **********???
     
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    Yes, and the only ONE putting out the pro mug is the mug himself...LMFAO!!!!
     

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