What should be done to solve Europe's demographic crisis?

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What should be done to solve Europe's fertility/demographic crisis?

Poll closed Apr 3, 2012.
  1. Allow more highly fertile Africans and Arabs to enter Europe and have children

    25.0%
  2. Enact pro-natal policies that encourage child rearing among middle class European families

    75.0%
  3. Any talk about "differences" between Europeans/non-Europeans is racist - therefore off limits

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  4. It is someone elses turn to lead the world let the Europeans slowly die off

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. I dont care, national fertility is a silly issue for me

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear New Member

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    As many of you may know, Europe's demographic problem is a ticking time bomb. There simply aren't enough young people to support retirees in perpetuity. It turns out Somalis, Pakistanis and Turks are not the high browed saviors of the West as many silly idealists once though.

    Below is a map showing European fertility down to the province level...

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    Is this in Europe's future???

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  2. Kman

    Kman New Member

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    End the welfare state so not having kids will no longer make financial sense + it will also stop the transferring of wealth from white people to brown and black people which will also increase white birth rates.
     
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    SiliconMagician Banned

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    European and EuroAmerican Society is dying.

    No one will do anything about it because of cultural guilt.

    Europe will collapse into ethnic enclaves while America will just slowly become yet another highly centralized Latin American socialist State.

    Probably better not to have kids at all anymore. The tipping point has already been reached and passed.
     
  4. Scare Bear

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    Nothing as the world for the most part is overpopulated, there are finite resources and only new technology will be able to solve the resource and economic bottlenecks. Growth cannot be sustained unless new resources are discovered or there are technological discoveries to use the current resources better. Europe is already a developed region and has already implemented most of the production oriented technology that has been developed thus far, so there isn't the room for growth that may still be possible in less developed regions without significant breakthroughs in production based technology.

    If you consider nations like Spain have unemployment around 20% I don't think Europe lacks people who need jobs. If Europe had more people their problems would actually be larger because there isn't even enough jobs in many nations for the current population size. You can't throw money at something and solve problems but Europe should invest in robots, nano tech and real energy solutions that don't need long term government funding to compete with existing sources of energy.
     
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    We shjould be REALLY scared of brown skinned people - they're evil! [/sarcasm]

    Off you go buddy, back to storm front.
     
  6. Clint Torres

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    Too many dominant cultures with long history of self proclamed superiority to combine or mix. Each has it's ethnocentric idologies that mean squat in the real world. It's like a hawaian who calims to be proud to be a hawaian, and that is all he has because others could care less.

    From what I see, Europe will continue the path they are on. But Europe does have potential to move to different parts of the world to reproduce and have kids. Those who have the ability to see beyond their own selfcentered superiortity will be able to find pleasure and success anywere in the futre. Those who feel they are the superior and can't see past their culture will live miserably within the confinds of their little world. Apply this from an individual to the scale of a country. And you can see what I'm talking about.

    But if it is too hard to understand, just think good thoughts.
     
  7. Polar Bear

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    Just let Europe die off then, right? No need to preserve Europeans...
     
  8. Polar Bear

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    Hey, anything that produces this result is good...
     
  9. Leffe

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    European countries have been invading each other for 1000's of years. Guess what, we're still here. And there is zero evidence that EUrope is dying. This exists in the minds of xenophobes.
     
  10. Colonel K

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    You mustn't generalise. The "demographic crisis" scenario only exists in what passes for the minds of racist xenophobic ****wits.
     
  11. Polar Bear

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    What a nasty tongue you have. Funny how those who denounce pro-European arguments are often some of the most bitter and vitriolic people themselves.
     
  12. CarlB

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    There is no need to have every inch of Europe populated. Just end immigration, and let them adjust to a lower population. They will have more resources per capita and can export the extras for funding.
     
  13. Bluespade

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    Sorry, but the numbers don't lie. Every western European country falls below the replacement birthrates of 2.1 births per household.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/current...or-developed-countries-declining-birth-rates/

    Non native Europeans are having more kids than native Europeans, and it's has simple as that. If this trend continues, the racial makeup of europe will have shifted in the next thirty years. This is happening in many first world countries, including the US.

    You're in denial, or just plain stupid if you can see the obvious.
     
  14. Pred

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    And in the US, we're just letting it happen, since illegals are breeding like roaches....to insure not being illegal anymore. They all took advantage of an amazingly stupid law, which will basically seal our doom eventually...and for what? Votes. Power, men who will be dead and gone by the time their mistakes are felt by the rest of us.

    There's a reason Latin America is hell. Considering we are looking more and more like it year after year, what's the logical conclusion?

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    And in the US, we're just letting it happen, since illegals are breeding like roaches....to insure not being illegal anymore. They all took advantage of an amazingly stupid law, which will basically seal our doom eventually...and for what? Votes. Power, men who will be dead and gone by the time their mistakes are felt by the rest of us.

    There's a reason Latin America is hell. Considering we are looking more and more like it year after year, what's the logical conclusion?
     

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