The greedy Brits are not big loss, most dangerous is distance to the U.S.

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    It is not a big loss, if greedy Brits go away, buy-buy Poms. Most dangerous is if the cooling of Relationships between EU and the U.S.. Merkel as the True European President should care for good relations between EU and USA, especially with Republicans which President candidate will win 2012 elections.
     
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    Ostap,...

    The special relationship was only useful for the USA because the UK had some influence in and on EU.

    USA now will go directly through Paris or Berlin.
     
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    Viv Banned by Request

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    Some shining lights here, I see. Ostap, we were not in the Eurozone before. We're not in the Eurozone now. What loss?
     
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    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Viv,

    1° Watch Merkel's press conference after summit.

    2° Read your own darn press, come on! :omg:
     
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    The Euro will not exist by the end of this decade, yet you think the Americans are going to isolate Britain? This is pure nonsense. The French and the Germans will still need British cooperation when dealing with the real security threats that Europe will deal with in this century.
     
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    But will the French still lend us their spare aircraft-carrier space till 2020?
     
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    austrianecon Banned

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    Probably not but they'll end up selling it to you when they have to face their debt issues. :mrgreen:
     
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    You are a funny Guy , Ostap . You and Janpoor are as politically sophisticated as two Bulls in a Ladies Lingerie shop .
    Team GB is an anachronism .
    Such a small island , with no great reserves of any useful natural resources and no chance of manufacturing in mass markets with any chance of price competitivity.
    Yet here we are, still a huge economic force --- about sixth largest on the planet and a fund of innovation and brilliant research .
    Do you imagine that troglodytes like you two are the types we need or breed?
    We have developed a Diplomatic Corps over hundreds of years which has resulted in our walking in corridors of power that others can only dream of joining
    And now we have two untutored squirts trying to preach .
    Yes , you are funny . But put the two of you together and it is the blind leading the unbalanced .
    I think we just vetoed you both --- redundant .
     
  9. Leffe

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    The "greedy" brits, don't seem to like their financial transactions being taxed by the EU. Tax them by all means, but exactly what business does the EU have in expecting that tax to go directly to them?
     
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    The Euro isn't going to disappear, the consequences are just to big. Also, think back to the 90's when sterling crashed, did it disappear?

    And yes, this will result in the UK being of less interest to the US. What do you think the incentive is for the US?
     
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    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Leffe, come on!

    Where'd you think all these companies are based at? You don't think these financial companies are all British in origin do you? You don't think all the money they "play" with comes from Britons do you?
     
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    No of course not. But the transaction or sale takes place in the UK. When I buy Belgium beer, I don't pay the tax on that to Belgium, it goes to the country where I bought the beer.

    Why is this any different?
     
  13. Ostap Bender

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    Janpor,

    unfortunately many leftists parties want to force the US - influence out from Europa.That could be danger therefore Merkel should be more closely to the US. An Axis - Washington - Berlin, why not?
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Viv,some empty blah-blah from London and too much brakes.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    French and Germans need USA, not greedy guys from Britain.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    If you are nice guys, you should pay. If you are too greedy you can give your advises and innovations everybody you want, but not EU where govern Merkozy.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Euro will never disappear, you can be sure.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Sorry guys, UK was probably fifty years ago an important place for Europa, but today, except lotsa millions Muslim immigrants and fled Russian oligarchs it attracts nobody. UK could still play an important role in Europa if it was not so greedy and sometimes too dumb.
     
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    America has enough problems of it's own. The US is in far more trouble than has been widely reported here in Europe.
     
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    There comes a point when you have to seriously wonder whether you ever had any formal education .
    Your posts have the one merit of making me chuckle occasionally in sheer disbelief .
    I have a cat who is far smarter than you on your best day .
     
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    So exactly why do 75% of all EU bank financial transactions occur in the UK? Please keep on topic and keep islam out of non-islam related topics.
     
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    You will have to wait several years to get a reply .
     
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    It could be a number of reasons. The fact the UK has had the most stable finanical center in the world for hundreds of years to they reject a Tobin (financial) tax since they already have the Stamp Duty Reserve Tax and about 70% of the transactions are exempt.

    I personally don't understand why the London Markets are used, other then capital tax purposes (its cheaper to sell and buy in the UK) then it is in the US or EU. But as of right now, outside of New York, London is the biggest Finanical center in the world. Frankfurt comes in 3rd.
     
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    And Brussels wants those London transactions taxed so they can continue their project of the EUSSR technocracy.
     
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    They have as much chance of getting their way as America has of being able to fund another moon landing .Zero .
     

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