Why is Israel Important to the US?

I started the original thread a couple of weeks ago. But it looks like whoever runs this site took it down. And after I donated $50 to the cause!! (Check the contribution band. Almost a third of it is mine.)

All the original feedback is lost, but I'd still like to hear your comments.

 

It is the other way around.

The US is important ...to Israel.

Israel ensure that the US politics forms policy that is favourable to Israel, not Americans.

Israel want their tax dollar, their weapons, the blood of American soldiers, but they don't actually want Americans themselves.

The only Americans that tell you Israel is somehow important to American people, are the same one's that would support legislation that does place Israel first over the US.

But you know this, right?

 

Israel has never been good for the U.S. even when I supported them I new this.

 

Israel is a parasite on the host of America.

And, as with all hosts, they keep on drawing from it, even when the host is weakened.

 

I totally support an Israel securely behind borders negotiated with the Palestinians. And I also support US military intervention if Israel's existence is ever threatened by outside forces. An unlikely prospect given this tiny nuclear-armed country of 5 million people fields one of the largest military forces on earth.

But that's just the US being good guys. Israel could disappear tomorrow with no consequence to the US. Quite the contrary!!

 

Even if Israel are in the wrong?

You would want to see Americans die to support Israel's right to be wrong and engage in illegal actions?

Would you not sooner intervene against that?

 

I meant threatened to be overrun. A laughable prospect given the current situation in that region.

 

Stop dodging, you Bibi/Avigdor fans.

Over the past 40 years, US taxpayers have directly or indirectly spent at least $1 trillion enabling a country with a population less than New York City's pursue policies mostly detrimental to US interests.

So what's the good news?

 

Aparently the OP has it backwards. A parasite needs a host. and the USA has had a lot of money to capitalize on for the past 100 years. Prior to that it was Germany and Russia. When there is no more money to take, they will move to south america when they become rich with gold and money. You will never see jeuwish flock to Somolia, irland, or pakistan or even , to dominate their politics, media, and universities and to instigate wars on isreal enemies. The home land of isreal is where the jeuwish have strong ties.

I'm not anti-termite. I just observe things, and I will not let my jeuwishness influence my observation.

 

Israel = The Man & Jim Crow of the Middle East ,that's why.

 

Oh ,I forgot Israel is the Bull Connor of the Middle East.

 

hahaha that's a good one

 

I was wondering what happened to that, it belonged in another forum, not being Latest World News and all, so I figured someone just hit the wrong button. It is probably floating around in the ether somewhere.

Our "word" is the only importance of a Member State supporting Israel against those that would destroy a Member State of the United Nations.

 

1 trillion? where did you get that from?

"pursue policies mostly detrimental to US interests" - do you know what US intersts in the area are?

 

Got a presentation for us? some rats running in an ally maybe

 

Who is a termite? the Jews?

 

Is this how Israelis spend their days, defining if Jews are termites or not?

 

You cant make peace with "stinking Arabs" or "Parasite/termites Jews", that's why i'm asking,

OFC, if peace is not the objective you can't really blame the right goverment in Israel.

 

My view is that most on both sides seek peace while the right-wing gains power through the lack of such.

 

It is not so much a political relationship but the fact that the US has a sense of moral responsibility towards Israel (their friendship is built upon very strong foundations). Israel is the only country in the Middle East who shares US' democratic ideals of free enterprise, protection of their own people.

 

That was exactly the attitude of the Jewish refugees who began arriving in 1917.

 

If "right-wing" was defined as totalitarian, the right-wing "liberals" of Israel probably saw some benefit in allowing the "right-wing" Hamas being in the election back when they blamed Bush for not speaking out against it one time; both "right-wings" benefited from that election:

10-24-05 09:43 AM:

“JERUSALEM — Israel has dropped its campaign to ban the violent Islamic Hamas from Palestinian parliamentary elections, a senior official said Sunday, acknowledging defeat after President Bush pointedly skipped repeating the demand in a public appearance with the Palestinian leader last week. “ http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173153,00.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/4916-republicans-have-lost-war-terror.html

 

That is not true.

Israel is an ethnocentric semi-Theocracy and an apartheid state.
Israel is a "Jewish state" and the Rabbis decide who is a Jew.

USA abandoned racial segregation a long time ago, and they separated the religion from the state in the USA.

The American religious leaders do not decide, who is an American.

Ergo: Israel does not share American values, it supports values, that are opposed to American values.

 

Israel is a very valuable ally for the US because first of all it is the only liberal and secular Western-style democracy in the Middle East. It is also like having a gigantic military base right in the heart of the Islamic world, and Israel also provides the US with tons of very valuable intelligence free of charge. Thus, if Israel was lost, the USA would have to fund, build, staff, and maintain several military bases to replace Israel and also very significantly ramp up its intelligence gathering capabilities, which together would cost exponentially far more money than the measly amount we provide Israel in foreign aid. Hence, maintaining Israel as a valuable ally simply saves the USA tons of money.

In addition, Israel like the West as well is also a victim of the same permanent and perpetual stealth global jihad that is being waged against all non-Muslim unbelievers simultaneously around the world. Thus, in that regard, Israel must receive the undivided support of the West.

Indeed, there is no difference between the permanent jihad of conquest that is currently being waged perpetually against the Hindu unbelievers in Kashmir, Jammu, and India, the Buddhist unbelievers in Thailand, the Christian unbelievers in the Philippines, the ethnic Chinese unbelievers in China, the atheist and Orthodox Christian unbelievers in Chechnya and Russia, the animist and Christian unbelievers in Sudan, Somalia, Cote-d'ivoire, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Uganda, Chad, and Kenya, the Orthodox Christian Serb unbelievers in Bosnia and Kosovo, the Maronite Christian unbelievers in Lebanon, etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum, from the permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel. Not to mention the mass Muslim immigration to the West for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme. Hence, those people that single out Israel and Israel alone, while at the same time ignoring all of the many other jihads of conquest also being waged perpetually against against many various unbelievers around the world are obviously obsessed Jew hating bigots.

Indeed, the entire Nakba scenario and the so-called Palestinian people that were really created out of whole cloth in Moscow in 1964 by the Soviet KGB as a disinformation campaign used to dupe gullible useful idiots and to camouflage the Islamic world's permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel under a cloak of nationalism, are nothing but fake pretext used to conveniently justify jihad. Hell, even the peace process is fake as it is used to weaken Israel and dupe gullible useful idiots.

The truth is the jihad being waged against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel isn't any different whatsoever from the many other jihads of conquest the Islamic world is also currently waging.

 

What the (*)(*)(*)(*) is this latest pile of wonderfully imaginative crap? Palestine was dreamed-up in Moscow in 1964? Interesting; perhaps you should tell my mother that she wasn't in Palestine as a Polish refugee in 1946, and it was all an illusion. I'm sure she'll be relieved to know the 'truth'
Oh, and what's this lying on my desk? Why, it's a coin, dated 1927 and inscribed 'Palestine' and '2 Mils' in English and Arabic. I expect that's also an illusion (note to self; stop taking hallucinogens).

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