Is It Time To Cut Off Native Americans?

Interesting. That would make capitalism impossible.

 

A reservation is not US soil, therfore they are not required to pay taxes....this is like claiming we should be able to tax Cuba.

 

The US government had tried bringing the Native Americans into society to live with 'white' people. This didn't work and they ended up living along side other minorities in poverty - partly because they couldn't find jobs.

 

The European colonization of America was a demographically catastrophic event, because the communicable diseases transmitted by the invaders killed ninety to ninety-five percent of the indigenous population.

Natives are not a collective entity that could "make a move" in a unified way; that mentality stems from categorization of Natives as an ethnic outgroup.

Native Americans rank far lower on various indicators of economic well-being than Anglo whites do: http://www.urban.org/publications/309308.html

 

They could have have made a move if they were united. Their lack of unification is a fault of their own and the Europeans should not be blamed for that. This land would not stay theirs forever and that's a fact. The mistreatment of indians is horrible but remember that in other situations they would have just been eliminated. They lost about 12,000 on the trail of tears? Jews lost that much in a day in Hitler's Germany.

Keep some perspective.

 

Native Americans are only conceptualized as a homogenous ethnic group in the aftermath of their genocide and dispossession. To imagine that they should have been "unified," and a lack of unification is a "fault," is simply an aspect of an inaccurate categorization of Indians as a homogenous, hiveminded ethnic group.

The number of Ashkenazi Jews killed during the Final Solution is estimated to be about five to six million. While estimates of pre-Columbian Indian population levels vary tremendously, the number of Indians killed from the 1490's to the 1890's has been placed at one hundred million by American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World.

Approximately two-thirds of the Ashkenazi population was killed, compared to more than ninety-five percent of the Indian population. While Jews were killed at a far faster rate, the total number of Indian fatalities is far higher.

 

Yeah, I agree, but remove the word Casino and replace it with Corporation

"American corporations should no longer be exempt from Corporate and Income tax. The Corporation's rake in tens of millions using roads we pay for so their customers to get there as well as Police and Fire services. It's high time for them to start paying their fair share"

Hey it works!!

 

I will never understand why when times are tough, conservatives target the poorest members of society first.

 

Because, didn't you know, our entire economy is falling apart because their is some welfare mother out there buying milk for her three kids with food stamps.

 

It's like they are jealous of people on welfare or living impoverished on reservations. BUT, the second you talk about rich people... it becomes class warfare.

 

Depends on what the treaties and laws say.

 

Well, if America is prepared to give them back their lands that we stole from them 200 years ago, then I'm on board with you.

 

Please link to the treaty that says they NEVER have to pay taxes.

 

I agree Big Companies like GE shouldn't get out of paying tax just because Obama is buddies with their CEO. They should all pay.

 

Please link to the ones that say they will ONE day pay taxes.

 

I can agree with that. At the very least, we need to integrate these areas back into mainstream society.

They're better off living with us anyway. Reservations tend to have a lot of crime and alcoholism issues.

 

Why ask me? It's Frodo's claim. I'm just asking him to back up his claim it would be breaking a treaty.

 

It seriously does not make sense. And when you say poorest, you literally mean poorest. The Native Americans are the poorest of the poor.

 

I say F'em. We got their land. There's corporate business to be done. Just F 'em. It's the corporate way.

 

Actually I am pretty sure Native Americans living outside of reservation lands do pay taxes.

In 1947, William Zimmerman, acting Commissioner of Indian Affairs, proposed to terminate the federal government's responsibility to specific tribes. The criteria to determine if a tribe was ready for termination were:
1. satisfactory degree of acculturation to white ways,
2. economic self sufficiency of the tribe,
3. willingness of the tribe to dispense with federal aid, and
4. willingness of the state where the tribe resided to assume responsibility (Deloria 198

The Native Americans under this act were given all rights and privileges of citizenship. This would terminate the US government's recognition of the sovereignty of the tribes, as well as making the Native Americans subject to state, federal taxes, and laws. Although, as history showed us it was clear why none of Zimmerman's four criteria was ever used to designate the tribes that were suitable for termination. The tribes that Congress was so eager to terminate were not ready for termination, according to the established criteria. In other words it horribly failed and put the Native Americans in much deeper poverty. Many lands were stolen from the Native Americans who were unable to pay their property taxes. This caused the Native Americans to just go into much deeper poverty, and basic services were unable to be payed for. Take Monominee for example, once it became terminated it was the poorest in the state. We should learn from history, and not repeat it.

 

I suggest a politician run on a platform of cutting off the money the US government agreed to give to Native Americans. I'm sure they would be a shoe in to win there race.

 

Stop giving them funds. It's that simple.

 

When in you opinion would we reach a point where these people are considered like everyone else and not deserving of special treatment? What standards need to be reached for that to happen?

 

What short sided thinking.

 

Whats your option? Don't call someone out without giving your way of doing things.