How devoted are you to Isreal?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by krunkskimo, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What has 'Israel' got to do with Jews? The intellectual ancestors of 'Israel' murdered Jews in vast numbers, you know.
     
  2. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    every jew in the world is entitled to move to and live in israel if they so choose. id say it has everything to do with them. <<< Mod Edit: Personal Attack >>>
     
  3. Jack Napier

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    Not if they are going to occupy illegal land they are not, and not if by doing so, they engage in, or are complicit to any other illegal acts.

    Believe it or not, even Jews mostly understand and are respectful of law, and morality.

    Which may well explain why, despite having had six decades to decant themselves to this artifical state, built on some Zionist political and quasi theocratic ideal, most Jews in the World have not gone there.

    This is despite Zionists trying to bribe them to do so, with offers of money and land. Zionists often do not understand it when anyone refuses an offer of a bribe, they were quite perplexed when Iranian Jews told them to go feck off, a few years ago, when they tried to bribe them to live in 'Israel'.

    So, after sixty years, and a literal fortune in campaigning and bribes, the vast bulk of Jews do not seem to want to live in this 'Jewish homeland'.

    You'd pretty much have to be a ghoul to move anywhere in which you knew the state that would now Govern you had used force, possibly death, on a family, including kids, in order that they could bulldoze the land, in which 'your' house was now built on.

    If there is a single person on here who really feels they could sleep at night, knowing that, then I feel sorry for you, I really do.

    It is almost as if you have no 'soul'.
     
  4. obediant_consumer

    obediant_consumer Banned

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    do you defend muslims?
     
  5. l4zarus

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    This scale is misleading.
    I would not sacrifice all to prevent the (lmao) "rapture".
    I do not "despise" Israel, but I think Israeli foreign policy is often misguided.

    Much like this "poll".

    Was there a point?
     
  6. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    i defend everyone who suffers from ignorant blanket stereotypes and criticisms.
     
  7. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I don't believe that anyone argues against the fact that Israel is a racist aparthied state which is one of the fundamental problems with it.

    There are also serious issues with the fact that Israel is in violation of international law and it's treaty obligations and that is violated the Rights of the non-Jewish Citizens of Palestine when it was founded and continues to do so to this day.

    Of course we know that the most Jews don't support racism or the violation of the Rights of anyone or tyranny by government so the problem has been correctly limited to the Zionists that control Israel as opposed to Jews in general. Millions of Jews oppose Zionism because of it's disregard for the Rights of the non-Jewish population of Palestine and it's disregard for international law and it's treaty obligations.
     
  8. NGO

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    Israel is our Middle Eastern Aircraft Carrier against intolerance, hatred and fanaticism. We owe it our sincerest and most dedicated support.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Can we assume then that this carrier is named the USS Tyranny?
     
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    would say 9/11 surely increased american support for israel because americans weren't thinking about the middle east until their problems surfaced on US soil
     
  11. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you. Now there is a change!
     
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    Where is the option to "I don't care either way."?
     
  13. Jack Napier

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    You should care.

    Many of your own countrymen starve, while your country sends money to Israel, who are not starving.

    25% of your homeless are former war vet's, forgotten, abandoned, and living in the streets.

    Each and every single one of them could have supported accomodation, and the best after care services, without it even costing the taxpayer more money. You just need to use a tiny % of the welfare cheque you give to Israel.

    Moreover, you should also care from the point of view that your political system has been literally hijacked. If you do not care about that, you do not care about your constitution.

    Furthermore, you should also care from the point of view that this hijacking actually decreases the security of your fellow Americans, rather than make you more safe.

    So, there are some good reasons for you to care, right there.

    Jack
     
  14. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This message has not been written because it criticises childkillers and their accomplices and would be censored.
     
  15. Jack Napier

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    What do you mean?
     
  16. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Disagreement with Shiva, now settled. I am giving up the word 'you' for Lent, so never tempt me to use it! :)
     
  17. Jack Napier

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    Use 'one'.

    It makes the distinction, and one gets to sound like the Queen.

    Rather than a queen..

    :mrgreen:
     
  18. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I shall call myself 'WE'! :)
     
  19. Jack Napier

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    I know others that do that.

    But they usually mean the voices in their head.

    :-D
     
  20. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I'm glad to see that some progess has been made so can we resume the discussion? Remember the Mission Statement of Political Forum that we are to be engaged in respectful debate of the topic.

    Shiva_TD
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