To all Paul supporters still claiming the GOP and Liberals are the same...

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  1. texmaster

    texmaster Banned

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    There are some (I said some not all) bat (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy Paul supporters who continue this lie that the GOP and Liberals are the same so lets break this BS wide open with a few simple questions.

    How do you explain the 5-4 decisions on the 2nd Amendment, Affirmative Action, Property Rights and a dozen others all split between Conservative and Liberal judges? If they are all the same, why don't they agree?

    How do you explain the types of judges Republicans nominate vs liberal judges? If they are all the same wouldn't they think the same when ruling?

    Did Bush push for Obamacare?

    Did Obama push for lower taxes for everyone?

    Did Bush coddle the Unions?

    Did Obama limit Union Power?

    Did Bush call for more regulation on Businesses?

    Did Obama call for less?

    And these are only a fraction of the differences between the two parties.

    Do they have similar views on some things? OF COURSE. Does that mean those similarities mean as a whole they are the same? Of course NOT.

    Only a FOOL would claim otherwise so until the Nutball Paul supporters who claim the parties are the same can't answer the differences listed above they should be labeled for what they are. Libertarian extremists who live in a world where compromise cannot exist and would rather watch the country burn to the ground than work with others and should stay where they are. On the fringe of society.
     
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    Badmutha New Member

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    The difference between BIG STATISTS and LITTLE STATISTS.........

    .....I wouldnt say they are both the same.......but I would say there are too many commonalities rather than differences........hence all the problems we face today.
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    Difference between uncontrollable liberal and tamed liberal is evident as you show, but both support telling the individual what they can and cannot do— when the Constitution says they can not.
     
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    The GOP is a political party and liberal is an political ideology.

    Do you mean the difference between Democrat and Republican or liberal and conservative?

    As a Ron Paul supporter I am attracted to the big issues Paul talks about. The big three: liberty, foreign policy and monetary policy.

    Looking at these issues, as a candidate Paul stands alone. The others are the same.
     
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    Its done in a left vs right dialectic, always marching down the same road, left foot then the right foot. The Agenda doesn't change.

    http://www.robodoon.com/carol_quigley.htm

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  6. texmaster

    texmaster Banned

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    Then explain the court decisions and why both sides were completely opposite on the issues that do change our country.
     
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    Bulloney.
    Republicans are businessman and capitalists.
    Dems are socialists, Marxists, and communists.
     
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    Big government
    Big spending
    less civil liberties
    massive corruption

    AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

    STILL NO JOBS!

    Different faces of the same coin.

    Social things like marriage, abortion, education, all should be decided by family and their respective local communities and not by Washington. these are the major things that divide our government when in fact it should not be part of the government what so ever.
     
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    There is a difference between liberals and the GOP. Both are war-hungry zionists, but the difference is when the war actually starts the liberals change their tune and pretend to be against it.
     
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    You mean like how Republicans and Democrats agree on foreign aid?
    Excessive military spending?
    Endless wars?
    Protectionism?
    Economic Sanctions?
    Getting involved in entangled alliances?
    Funding the United Nations?
    Funding the IMF/World Bank?
    Keeping the Federal Reserve and the central banking system?
    Bailouts?
    Spending this country hopelessly in debt?
    Destroying the dollar?
    Social Security?
    Continual expansion of the size of government?
    The Patriot Act?
    The National Defense Authorization Act?
    Generalized expansion of the Police State?
    Suppressing the 10th amendment?
    Not securing the borders?
    Wanting to give a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens?
    Continuing the failed War on Drugs?
    Continuing to allow corporate and banking lobbying to control Congress?
    Government takeover of the healthcare system?
     
  11. Wildjoker5

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    And what part of Bush's policies has Obama over turned that he promised in the campaign? How much did Bush over turn from Clinton? How much did Clinton over turn from older Bush?
     
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    uh, ............none ?
     
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    Nah, they aren't the same at all then?
     
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    They are different ! They have different campaign slogans, and scam a different voter block.
     
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    Still ducking.

    2nd Amendment, Affirmative action, right to property to be taken away by government, ALL 5-4 DECISIONS

    Explain that if they are all the same.
     
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    I knew you would duck it. Come back when you can answer my questions.
     
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    Aside from having breakfast with Trumpka, Obama has done absolutely nothing for organized labor.
     
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    LOL Wow what a total lie.

    Documents released in a classic Friday afternoon news dump show that labor unions representing 543,812 workers received waivers from President Barack Obama‘s signature legislation since June 17, 2011.

    http://biggovernment.com/whall/2012...or-union-members-69813-for-private-employees/


    Obama campaigned for Labor Unions in their fight against Walker in Wisconsin

    He illegally promoted union thugs breaking the rules on Congress

    And that's just the short list.

    Wake up
     
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    What are you a selfish nationalist prick? America's aid is about spreading goodwill around the world.

    Even with the wars we're still only spending about half of what we did during the Cold War.

    We didn't ask for that. It was thrust upon us by several criminal organizations who have the same intelligence gathering capabilities and striking power as a small nation state and it won't stop even if we brought every American soldier home from every overseas base. We will still get attacked. You would rather do nothing and just "absorb losses".

    We're never going to adopt protectionism or engage in a trade war.


    That is one of our tasks as a leading member of the UN.

    What are you George Washington? This isn't 1789. The world is interconnected and we have painstakingly built relationships over half a century or more that you would just toss under the bus for no reason at all.

    Its the UN for christ sake, what do you want to withdraw from it too? We would be listed as a rogue nation then.

    22% of it, and yes. The IMF/World Bank is a good thing to help stabilize troubled economies in the world that could lead to a systemic failure.

    OMG, the Federal REserve and CBS are here to stay. Stop thinking you are more intelligent or better informed than 99% of the world's economists and economic advisors.

    No one liked 'em, but if we didn't bail them out. We go into a severe depression, but you obviously want us to live in a depression or honestly think you are so smart that you know better than the experts.

    That is as much a fault of the American People as our politicians. Take it up with them. If the majority don't agree with you, well you'll just have to try harder to convince them.

    No one advocates destroying the dollar except you who want to end fiat currency which means no dollar, instead we all get paid in company script that no one but our employers will honor which forces us to buy everything from our employers opening us up to massive exploitation and near slavery.

    What? Tell our old people, get (*)(*)(*)(*)ed and die?

    As long as the population expands, Government will expand to serve the needs of those extra people. We need to trim it a bit but I don't see how that is going to happen with Special Interests of every make, shape and color in Washington.

    Go to (*)(*)(*)(*)ing court about it already or get on with your revolution if its so bad.

    Again, take it to court, if you don't trust the court then there is only one option and that is the Tim McVeigh route. You see where that got him.

    Commensurate with the generalized expansion in the violent nature of crime in America today.

    Blame the Confederates who caused a civil war and gave the Federal Government an excuse to expand its powers beyond the 10th.

    Mexico, and the rest of the world would condemn us if we just outright militarized our borders.

    They aren't going to just go away, no matter how harshly you enforce the law. You complain about a police state, but illegal immigraiton controls would require an expanded police state to implement.

    As long as the majority of the American People support the prohibition and control of narcotic substances, you are stuck with it. Your freedom be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

    No way to stop it without an amendment. The Constitution gives the people, represented by organizations, a right to lobby congress for redress of grievances.

    No one on the right likes it, but the Democrats have a very powerful mythical narrative about a medical utopia that makes reform popular and the American people don't want to pay the true cost of their healthcare.

    It is obvious that your problem isn't with our politicians, its with our entire society. It is a problem with the majority of the mainstream America who simply doesn't agree with you. You hate our society and want to see it either transformed or destroyed, just like the radical left. You are no better.
     
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    what you've described is akin to taking out your hanky and blowing your nose into it or in your case, your shirtsleeve.

    Expressing one's opinion on the labor situation in Wisconsin or signing a waiver is nothing as far as I'm concerned.

    I think your so anti-union, you'll say anything to attempt to get your deceiving point of view across and furthermore I think its you who should wake and deal with the truth and reality.

    Enlighten me, supply me with your "long list". Does it really exist or is it another figment of your imagination??
     
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    G Wimp Bush allowed her "jewish" bosses to destroy the World Trade Center as a pretext to replacing all the non-interest-charging Islamic banks in the Middle East with Fed-like banking mafias to make one billion Muslims interest slaves to the "jews" like most Americans are. Wimp then rammed through the (anything but) "PATRIOT" Acts, created America's version of Hitler's Fatherland Security, and pretty much made America just another communist country. Everything Obalmy's doing is just a continuation of what Wimp was doing, the very things Wimp would have done if somehow he'd been given a third term in office.
     
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    he did. It went over your head.
     
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    Robodoon, you're exactly right. I like your diagram, it depicts the central philosophy of The John Birch Society, the barometer of everything that's truly conservative. The middle class of every Christian nation on earth is being attacked relentlessly from above and below. Of course, all REAL CHRISTIAN and REAL AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES who've read the "jewish" playbook, THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION (http://100777.com/protocols) know this agenda has been in the work for at least 100 years. If a Conservative says THE PROTOCOLS is bogus, s/he's just exposed herself as a "jewish" infiltrate, NOT A REAL CONSERVATIVE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. DEAN BERRY MINISTRIES
     

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