You just argued against your own point You are going to have to pick up the intellectual pace in this thread substantially or I will ignore your twaddle.
I have stuff to do in the real world now, I will come back to this thread and see any of your nonsense is worthy of a reply later
Go back 12 posts from where you demand this research. Do I really need to prove gun control does not cure suicidal depression?
Lol. Can you read? This does not address the availability of firearms. Are you a native english speaker?
I dont know, do you? What you really need to prove is that increased availibility of firearms does not lead to a higher suicide success rate. Nothing you have posted so far addresses that. Now, I challenged you to raise the bar intellectually with your posts and you have so far failed to do so. You need to start reading more before you post.
Disclaimer; caps for emphasis only not shouting etc… Hello Ian. To your suicide conclusion etc, I would answer a respectable ...so? I haven’t argued that firearm saturation is or is not conductive to collateral damage, ha ha! Indeed ownership of 105mm field cannon, grenade launchers, and .50 hand guns may or may not lead to more injuries, deaths, mutilations, eye gouging’s (with barrel of fire arm or sharp end of bullet), mad grannies shooting other mad grannies, or such things. I suppose they might lead to an increase in deaths per firearm per household. Or they may not, I am not debating those points. I am arguing that UNIVERSAL gun control can not be fairly, morally,ethically, or lawfully* established due to the cultural differences of the intended population that a self appointed dictator wishes to inflict with THIER version of morals and ethics...er' I mean gun control. There are so many ethical moral and other differences between nations and even states that I am convinced there is no moral or ethical 'renditions'/versions of optimal gun control ! For example in the USA we have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms etc. Most firearm proponents that live in the USA and that are citizens of the USA deem that RIGHT is much more important than the inherent risks involved with firearm saturation, DESPITE how man injuries or deaths occur due to the use of firearms! (within a reasonable level which is ANOTHER subjective hurtle to overcome). * By lawfully established ; Without changing the constitution of at least one country there is no one size fits all version of optimal gun control. However maybe (and that is a huge maybe) in the UK the risks of firearm ownership may much more serious than what USA citizens claim and would reject firearm ownership as too dangrous, supporting a ban on hand guns etc! Reiver types (AKA RAT’s ie Reiver analogous types) can not understand that simple concept. If he wants to live in a nation that sees firearms as Satan in the flesh so be it. I would run screaming and crying from an Orwellian nightmare like that! I would probably meet Reiver running towards me away from the gun loving USA! I do not know if I would even engage the argument that firearms over all are a threat to the owners and thieves that are out there. The rate of deaths and injures could be substantially DECREASED with education and real time means tests for FIRST TIME BUYERS. Anyway I stand by my prior statements and embrace Mr Benjamin Franklins quote which is my mantra ; “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety“. ~rv~
Look at what these guys are attempting to do Lonestar! Of course the haters i.e. gun control advocates feel superior, they are like Death the camp guards of WW2. Relax I am only offering the guards as an analogist equivalent of the more malicious and deceptive of gun controls inc thugs and activists. They support or do the dirty work for the leaders of contemporary gun control movement (even if they dont know it). Who controls the rank and file, the anti gun bloggers authors and others? Its not a who but a what; Rich far left liberal monied hand wringers and control freaks. (I have to be vague not enough time and interest to do a proper expose'). In addition there is a sub group of gun control freaks. They have no leaders etc but are really closet dictators that wish to inflict their personal version of safety on everyone because they feel they know what’s best. That is taken as a whole probably the most repulsive, vile, unclean of all things eh? The gun control proponents* who hide behind the safety issue and remain in a closet hiding their true intentions have those unclean attributes in spades, IMO. * I am not suggesting anyone in this forum has the most repulsive of the above traits, some certainly present the symptoms of egomania. However they are more puppets and are parroting the PC views that their handlers have programmed them to do, and they are doing it well! Rev A
