US Jobless Claims Rise 'More than Expected' This Week, Up By 24,000 to 399,000 Read

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  1. Badmutha

    Badmutha New Member

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    Yeah....as soon as you provide the "proof" that Obama has made anything better with his brain dead policies and hair brain agenda.

    Obamabots abide by the following.......

    Without Obama--It Would Have Been Worse--And When Its Worse---It Would Have Been Worser.

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  2. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not obligated to back up strawman claims about assertions I did not make.

    You on the other hand stated as fact: "Without Obama ... the economy would be recovering much faster"

    Your failure of proof shows it to be the baseless blather that it was expected to be.
     
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    Badmutha New Member

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    That is a fact.......and a glaring reality.

    I provided proof.....that came from The Obama Administration.
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    coolguybrad New Member

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    What economic policies exactly are you talking about?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am absolutely saying there were terrible employment numbers when he took office. I am absolutely saying they have turned around and are improving. I didn't say that he did anything, though one could certainly make the argument that the government stimulus Obama supported had a major impact.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Based on your posts, I have no doubt that predictions for 2008 would consitute "proof" in your mind.
     
  7. Badmutha

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    Proof?....LOL

    Unemployment Rate Since Obama's PORKULUS/"Jobs Bill"
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    By any and all measures....even Obama's... PORKULUS was a complete and utter failure.
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say anything about economic policies.
     
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    I guess things are better because the president wore a suit on Monday, instead of Sunday?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would you think that?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These measures say you are wrong:

    When Obama took office, the economy was tanking at a -9% real rate, losing 700,000+ jobs a month, unemployment was skyrocketing upward, and the stock markets were crashing in the worst recession in 80 years. The housing market was destroyed and we were headed straight for a depression.

    But now the economy has been growing steadily for more than two years, the private sector has created jobs every month for more almost two years, stock markets are up about 90% from their recession lows, and the unemployment rate has fallen from above 10% to 8.5%, and about 5 million private sector jobs have been added since Jan 2010.
     
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    Since Obama's been in office....

    He also got a dog. Maybe that was the reason for the "improvements".
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree with your supposition.
     
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    Well fill me in, I'm still looking. What did Obama do to cause the "improvements"?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say he did. But you never heard of Tarp? Stimulus? Or any of the other recovery measures Obama supported or enacted?
     
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    You are so sickening. When you are ready to be serious. Never mind the left does not know how to do that
     
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    Honestly I don't like Obama, but he seems to get way more blame for this then he deserves. Its not just Obama's fault, this is a country. Obama might be the face of this country but he can't work miracles. I'm not a Obama supporter cause personally I think he is a incompetent celebrity president that makes are country look ignorant, but to put all the blame on one person is asinine.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I appreciate it that me correcting your regular posting of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) makes you sick.

    You were the one who claimed Obama puts out false figures. I simply asked you what was false about the 399k figure which is the topic of this thread.

    Quit posting such nonsense and maybe you won't get called on it an feel sick.
     
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    You mean like Mitt "I like to fire people" Romney?

    LOL...ya...good luck with that one...LOL
     
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    You spin you do not correct.
     
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    That was three years ago...

    Is there a three year forgiveness rule? Lets say things are better for arguments sake. Was the spending the reason? What can you say he has done recently?
     
  22. Badmutha

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    And can you prove Obama's policies have anything to do with the "recovery"?
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    Excuse me for butting in here but...ARE YOU FOR REAL?

    First of all...stimulus money takes time before the effects are seen.
    You see them now with rising employment and falling unemployment.
    That's not a case of "Lets say things are better for arguments sake." ITS A FACT!!!

    Was spending the reason? Yes...for the most part it was.

    Perhaps you wanna thank both Bush and Obama for saving your sorry asses?
     
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    You think?

    So tell us upon what basis do you claim Obama did to put out a false 399k initial unemployment claim figure.
     
  25. Buzz62

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    LOL...My Gawd another one.

    It sure as hell wasn't anything YOUR team of do-nothings have done...was it!
     
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