‘CRAZINESS’ in climate field leads dissenter Dr. Judith Curry to resign

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Someone who doesn't believe in global warming should not comment on other peoples ability to reason.
     
  2. jackdog

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    for those who believe in climate modeling programs here is a cue little web page to play with. It uses the UCAR (University Corporation for Atmospheric Research) modeling program MAGICC which was developed by scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research under funding by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. CATO institute has a nifty little interface which allows you to plat with various scenarios.

    Carbon Tax Temperature-Savings Calculator


    so just for the heck of it I used the maximum input of 100% carbon reduction immediatly for all industrialized countries with a maximum sensitivity of 4.5. The temperature change averted: by 2050: 0.124°C and by 2100: 0.352°C. That is every country on Earth went to a carbon free economy immediately using the maximum sensitivity. Now we know every country on Earth is not going to revert to a 16th century lifestyle so why bother. Just me but I would rather adapt than live in a cave to prevent less than 1 Degree F change
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone not familiar with anything Curry has written and has cognitive blindness should not comment on what others believe
     
  4. notme

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    Your source something, but nowhere is it challenging my claim that is backed up by my source.
    So my source stands that 97% of the scientists agree.

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    Ah yeah... "believe"...
    go away with your religion! lol
    97% of all the scientists say that climate change is because of mankind.
    You lot are clinging on to something like the last dying idiots who kept on claiming the earth is flat.
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you apparently have no clue what the 97% represents.
     
  6. notme

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    It represents the fast bulk of all the scientists, according to my source.
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, based on a study by a cartoonist and his buddies looking at abstracts.
     
  8. Penrod

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    Again on record ? It was way hotter long ago, I dont care how long weve been keeping record, thats nothing in the space of time

    No one cherry picks better than AGW disciples.
     
  9. Quantum Nerd

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    I'd be careful with citing Lindzen.

    He is on record stating that CO2 is, in fact, a greenhouse gas, and that humans are responsible for it's concentration almost doubling within the last 100 or so years.
     
  10. In The Dark

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    Any pragmatist MUST be skeptical of results in the future from expenditures today. The compound uncertainties in this calculus boggle the engineering/economic mind.

    Chaotic system - Multiple unknowns - Poor existing models - Huge proposed costs - Unknown benefits
    All that involves faith greater than Christianity if you back this 6 ball combination shot with a large fraction of the global GDP.

    And knowing that to be the case, the pragmatist MUST conclude there is another motive for this movement. CONTROL. OF. EVERYTHING. ALWAYS.
    The left has only this agenda.
     
  11. In The Dark

    In The Dark Well-Known Member

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    Even if true (it's not), climate scientists cannot outline a cost/benefit proposal for outlays today.

    And the left wishes to rush headlong into massive spending programs that offer unknown benefits.
     
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    Lol no proof, no links just empty ignorance and anger. You should at the very least chill out and think it through before you post.
     
  13. Penrod

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    So it wasnt hotter when dinosaurs roamed the earth and we had far more CO2? I dont think you understand English . Your the angry one.
     
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    Politics will soon reign supreme over science....the rats are in the corn.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Judith Curry actually a proponent of extensive measures to move to sustainable energy production and ending the world's dependence on fossil fuels?
     
  16. Frowning Loser

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    IPCC doesn't do original research.

    Lol. But only a fool would believe that in order to agree with most of what an organization thinks one would have to agree with 100% of what it thinks. Crude immature thinking. CHECK.
     
  17. Hoosier8

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    Or how about someone not understanding the accelerated increase in CO2 started in the 1950's and is generally agreed start of last centuries alleged warming from the 70's is attributed to it?
     
  18. Bowerbird

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    Yes it was - but when the poles were free of ice the tropics were deserts

    Guess where most of humanity lives
     
  19. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The tropics were never deserts. During the last glacial period the tropics were only 3-4C cooler. Ever hear of Arctic amplification? Do you know why deserts are deserts and why they are located where they are?
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Such as who?

    And it would be interesting if we could have a layman's rundown of how the physical makeup of carbon means it cannot be a major climate change contributor
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, please tell us.
     
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    Look up Hadley Cells.
     
  23. Bowerbird

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    Hmmm - yes the models have been consistently checked against expected change and shown to be within the predicted confidence intervals?? Those models?

    Now how can the American "left" manage a global agenda affecting multiple countries around the world???
     
  24. Frowning Loser

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    Talking points. All bluff.

    Did you read my explanation of global warming going back 150 years. Of course not. Because you don't have the brain power to comprehend it.. It's all blah blah blah. Not a shred of evidence lol.
    Take another crack at this. See if you can figure it out. Or are you going to keep responding with taking points? :roflol:

    "(,CO2 produced from burning fossil fuels or burning forests has quite a different isotopic composition from CO2 in the atmosphere. As CO2 from these materials
    is released into, and mixes with, the atmosphere, the average 13C/12C ratio of the atmosphere decreases. Trees take up carbon in the air during photosynthesis and lay this carbon down as plant organic material in the form of rings. Remember the lower the 13C/12C isotopes found in tree rings the higher the co2. If the ratio of 13C/12C in atmospheric CO2 goes up or down, so does the 13C/12C of the tree rings. We can make a graph of the atmospheric 13C/12C ratio vs. time. What is found is at no time in the last 10,000 years are the 13C/12C ratios in the atmosphere as low as they are today. Furthermore, the 13C/12C ratios begin to decline dramatically just as the CO2 starts to increase — around 1850 AD )"


    You probably can't figure it out it's too technical for you. Lol... Go ahead make my day! Post more of your worthless talking points. :wall:
     
  25. Penrod

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    In the tropics where its warm and everything grows

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    Its not just the American left. People are starting to see the threat of the NWO and they are rejecting globalism
     

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