‘How will we survive?’

This is just a battle. I don't think it's strategically wise for republicans to take this battle right now.

Midterms are coming up and Democrats are disillusioned so we shouldn't give them something to coalesce around. They should hold off on that until they get the Senate in the White House and possibly the house.

Also I believe it was Republican appointees but ruled on roe v Wade

 

You don't see this issue as political? You don't see that judges were chosen specifically for how they would weigh in on Roe?

 

Oh! You misread what I said. I'm talking about a women's right to choose whether to have a baby or not. Not about giving people more guns.

 

No Biden justices will be confirmed. Barring the unlikely occasion of 60 rem senators in 2023 the next justice will be a federalist society member appointed by the next repub president..

 

A little. Roe v Wade is not perfect. But it's better than no Roe v Wade.

 

No. I did not misread anything. When a woman chooses to have an abortion, a living being is killed.

 

I don't know if the article is right or not. Sounds ok to me. But my point is that the President has, not only the right, but the obligation to do so in cases like this, in which the Supreme Court has become just an extension of the Republican Party.

 

Then the Biden administration will have been a failure. And Democrats will need to start looking for leaders who are willing to make the tough decisions when it's time to make them.

 

Just like when you eat at KFC. But it's not like any living being dying is a concern to Republicans.

 

You should read the rules:

Part of Rule 2.

"The rules regarding personal attacks extend not only to individual posters, but to groups as well. For example, calling all Republicans idiots is the same as calling every Republican on the board an idiot, and will not be tolerated."

Try addressing what I said.

 

Sure I'm just not pigheaded enough to think a branch of government isn't political.

Isn't that the way it has been since the beginning of the nation? You pick judges based on how they will rule?

Sounds like you should be angry with Ginsberg for not resigning during the period where her replacement would have been chosen by Democrats.

 

You were the one who brought up the topic of it being acceptable to kill a living being. Now you can't handle it?

I reaffirm what I said: the death of living beings is not a concern in Republican ideology or in their policies. If you want to recant on all the times you have defended people who use guns to kill others, or policies by the Trump that caused the death of hundreds of thousands of American, or your speech against expanding healthcare to save human lives... and many many other similar showings of indifference to loss of life that originate in your partissan ideology... you are more than welcome to do so. But you brought up the topic. And now that you realize your mistake when I lay out your party's ideology and actions against human life, you try to hide behind forum rules.

 

I think she has a point, but if it's true the ship has already sailed on the Supreme Court's credibility we ought to scrap the constitution, and reorganize the government because Congress and credibility are pretty much antonyms at this point and the president is only credible to 40% of the country at a time best case.

 

So your point about "forcing women to carry a pregnancy against their will" is invalid, since most states, even blue ones, put some sort of requirements on "forcing women to carry a pregnancy against their will."

 

Have any Obama or Clinton appointees ruled to the right of any issues before them? Which of them can be counted on to be politically independent ?

 

We were talking about abortion.

What speech on against expanding healthcare?

I have defended them when I thought it was justified to use a weapon as a defense or by law enforcement. I certainly will not recant any of that. If you want to argue specifics, I will argue specifics.
Now the subject is abortion. When a woman has an abortion, that is killing a living being. Every person on the face of this earth was a fetus which was not aborted.

 

So I just looked more deeply into this.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-case-past-could-be-future-abortion-2021-11-23/

"The Supreme Court on Dec. 1 is set to hear arguments in a case in which Mississippi is seeking to revive its law, blocked by lower courts, banning abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. Mississippi has raised the stakes by explicitly asking the court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, to overturn Roe v. Wade."

"It's a false narrative to paint this as a picture of an outright ban throughout the southeast," Gipson said, noting that the Supreme Court does not have to formally overturn Roe to uphold Mississippi's law."

15 weeks? That's what this is about? 15 weeks?

OF COURSE you shouldn't be getting a ****ing abortion after 15 weeks. Jesus ****ing Christ. The hysteria from the left regarding anything to do with abortion is absolutely insane.

 

My point is sound. Forcing women to carry a pregnancy beyond reasonable precautions to protect the life of another human being is immoral. But I do understand how binary thinking makes it so difficult for you to grasp reality. Of course, to attempt to describe reality as it is very quickly loses people with a short attention span to details. That's the reason why bumper-sticker politics is so effective on the right (not so much on the left). But reality does require a bigger mental effort than just trying to reduce the world to two options.

 

Does that mean we can agree that just because the SC says something is constitutional, doesn't mean it is actually constitutional?

 

Oh but it can they have to be confirmed by the senate. He can nominate as many as he wants but they become little more than resume filler until confirmed by the senate.

 

I don't know of any Obama or Clinton appointee who is not independent.

 

Ok. So you were not talking about killing human beings. Got it!

 

Apparently you don't "got it". Abortion is killing a living being. It might make you feel better about it to ignore that fact, but it does not change that fact.

 

Democrats have made abortion up until birth a written in stone portion of their political platform... Of course it's political but it is hypocritical to believe that both sides haven't milked it for all it's worth.

 

Ahhh, Independents, I see.