‘I’m targeted by the Israeli army,’ Razan al-Najjar said before she was killed

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    please define "nationality".
     
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    See post 50.
     
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    The bottom line is you wish to overthrow the Israeli state. You have failed five times to do it through violence so you think to do it from within. Its not going to work because Israel is a JEWISH state. The Jews are not going to lose sight of that. I'm not a Jew but I support the continuing JEWISHNESS of Israel 100% and I urge Jews around the world to recommit themselves to their faith because that is what sustains them and always has.
     
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    Again you cannot debate the point, you simply try to tell others what you think I think. Fine I am glad you accept that Israel is not a democracy and practises a form of apartheid through its Nationality laws.
     
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    ive seen no evidence of Apartheid committed by the State of Israel, inside Israel itself.

    legally, non-Jews have full rights and can run for Parliament and PM.
     
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    I don't really care that you don't think Israel is a democracy because you are not a person who cares about democracy. What you care about is revenge on the Jews for building a nation in the region you call Palestine. The people you support are anti-Semites, fascists and terrorists. The people I support are the Jews of Israel.
     
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    So lets agree on the nationality issue and the one state solution and think forward from there. What now? How many buses and cafes would have to be blown up until we are right back here again?
     
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    Enjoy your argument with yourself and yourself. It is most entertaining keep it up.
     
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    is that why you suggest Israel has the right to commit ethnic cleansing of million of non-Jews?
     
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    Israel could destroy Iran if they had to with their military and nukes. So you are so disconnected from reality in that assertion. And that creates stupidity, inevitably. Need a red pill? Just kidding.
     
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    Question. A relevant one. What would the palestinians, hamas do, if they could, to israel? Do that same cleansing? Hell, of course, any even the local village idiot here understands that. So you got no argument, not a valid one. Rainbows and unicorn thinking, IMO.
     
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    Israel has the right to force the enemy off its land if that's what you are referring to. Its Israel's land now.
     
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    enemy soldiers? yes.

    millions of non-Jews? that would be a terrible war crime and Israel would be kicked out of the UN and probably destroyed.
     
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    if Israel tried to commit ethnic cleansing, the Muslim nations of the world would nuke them to hell.
     
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    You mean Pakistan? They aren't even Arabs, they don't give a **** about Palestinians and they have to save their bombs for those hated Hindoos across the fence.
     
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    You did not address my point, so why not? Because an inconvenient truth was stated and you cannot respond to it rationally, or so it appears, with any intellectual integrity. Ok, cannot talk to someone like that, for it is like trying to teach a pig to sing. A waste of time. And it might annoy the pig.
     
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    Israel best not even contemplate ethnic cleansing.

    it would be their ending
     
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    No they do not, they are discriminated against on the grounds of nationality. That was my point, that is how Jews square the circle, all citizens are equal, all nationalities are not. Take the right of return for an example.
     
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    the Right of Return has no effect on citizens of Israel, only those trying to move there.
     
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    Of course it does, a Jew National has the right for any family member to come join him, not so a Arab National. As a British citizen I have exactly the same right regarding which family members come join me, it is not based on my nationality.
     
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    The Law of Return makes no special arrangements for family members.

    it applies ONLY to the person seeking to immigrate,

    many non-Jews have moved to Israel, under the Law of Return.
     
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    Ethnicity is not the only criteria for "cleansing" Throw in religion, lack of religion, homosexuality and freedom of speech and the surrounding region is the "cleanest"!

    What you call "Ethnic cleansing" is really just border security.
     
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    The only ones practicing ethnic cleansing are Muslim Arabs in Syria and Iraq.
    And you dare come here with this BS to cover their tracks.
    10 Million Syrian refugees are roaming the earth right now.
     
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    a Zionist here said Israel has the right to kick out the Arabs
     
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    Amazing how you take just one section of an Ha'aretz article while completely ignoring the rest of it. The same article that mentions the report of the Palestinian Health Minister also mentions that IDF denied targeting her. IDF have no idea how she died. You're just twisting their words.
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...shot-by-israeli-soldiers-army-finds-1.6153182

    A woman who was allegedly near her when she was shot, in the video linked in my previous post, said the paramedic has been shot in the chest. But an article in the Guardian seems to suggest she had been shot in the back. There's a video on youtube purportedly showing doctors trying to rescue al-Najjar, and there's no wound on her neck. There's no visible wound on her chest either, for that matter.



    From Electronic Intifada:
    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/gaza-medic-killed-israel-she-rescued-injured

    In the same article, there's a video showing the uniform al-Najjar was purportedly wearing when she was shot. But, unlike the picture of the same garment published on twitter (see my previous post), this one features a hole on the back. Here's the hole, look, no hole! Magic tricks?

    This is very confusing. There are many different versions of her death. There are even two different versions of her uniform. Why?

    And, of course, there's the unanswered question nagging at the back of my brain all the way through the twists and turns of this mystery: why did Hamas attack an event celebrating the memory of this young woman, beating the participants?
     

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