‘I’m targeted by the Israeli army,’ Razan al-Najjar said before she was killed

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

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    He is.
     
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    We have begun a full investigation and the people will be instructed how to behave and think once we've concocted a reasonably useless lie which actually sticks this time. Expect it any day soon or later or never.

    - IDgaF spokesperson.
     
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    There were many cameramen with an extreme hunger for footage to use against Israel. Not a single frame of footage supporting the claim that innocent, peaceful protesters were shot. My guess is that the cameras turn away from the acts that resulted in people being shot.
     
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    My guess is your have some kind of vision impairment. Love this new hasbara tactic of simply denying any and every evidence offered up!

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...t-video-sniper-protest-gaza-idf-a8288496.html
     
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    You're pretty snarky for having footage that doesn't even address my post. There is no footage of peaceful protesters being shot. There is no footage of what this man was doing when he got shot. What was he doing?
     
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    Unlike yourself I tend to believe in the presumption of innocence, therefore when I see a man stood in a field being shot for no apparent reason rather than ask the question "what was he doing?" I ask the question "what was the man doing shooting him?" If you wish to shoot a man across the boarder then by all kinds of justice I understand you have to prove there was a reason to shoot him, not him prove why he should not of been shot!
     
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    You believe in the presumption of innocence on one side, and presumption of guilt on the other. Any footage of what he was doing is conveniently unavailable. The claim that people were shot while peacefully protesting is still just a claim. I am always willing to watch any videos posted.
     
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    It would be smart to stay away from battle zones involving terrorists and the Israeli army. You couldn't get me to go within 100 miles of that train wreck.
     
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    It is interesting how Zionism turns logic and reason on its head, a man is shot in a field and you demand proof he was innocent.
     
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    Yep and damn sure you don't want to run at the troops with something in your hand looking to throw it. I'd shoot you down too.
     
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    People in the US got the right to just shoot to kill people who try to invade your property.
    The Jews in Israel call those people "terrorists".
     
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    It is more than reasonable to have doubts and asking for evidence before coming to a conclusion is logical. You tried to present a case where it was an obvious case of an innocent man being shot while peacefully protesting and that anyone not agreeing with your conclusion must have impaired vision.

    No logical thinker would believe that the video was only turned on a moment before he got shot. The part that shows what he was doing was conveniently edited out. If footage showing peaceful protesters getting shot existed, it would already be viral.
     
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    No you prove he was not a peaceful protester, you are the one turning logic on its head! It is another slight of hand that zionists think we will swallow. I learnt my lesson on bloody sunday, believing for years that british troops would never shoot indiscriminately.
     
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    You're the one that posted a video saying my vision was impaired! What part of the video do you think I didn't see?

    Now you are calling me a Zionist and moving the post to Bloody Sunday. If you just had some evidence, you would not have had to weave the tangled web you are now struggling in. I wasn't there, so it is possible he was peacefully protesting.
     
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    I am not struggling at all, I showed you a video of a man standing in a field getting shot, you then asked me to prove he was a peaceful protester, as I pointed out then and will do again, unless you can provide evidence he was not protesting peacefully he is innocent by any reasonable idea of justice.
     
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    interesting, cause in another thread you stated that Palestinians have the right to use deadly violence against Zionist Jewish Americans, as they share responsibility for Israel's crimes.
     
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    I wasn't there and the video does not support your claim. I was there when you suggested my vision was impaired, that I was a Zionist, and that your opinion of this incident was influenced by an unrelated incident.
     
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    None of which alters the fact that a man standing in a field was shot, and you demand he prove he was a peaceful protester, logic turned on its head. Deflect away.
     
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    I never suggested that he wasn't shot. He wasn't even part of the discussion before you brought it up, posted a video, and suggested that my vision was impaired. When I asked you a fair question: Which part of the video do you believe I am not seeing? You start the deflection dance, calling me a Zionist, bringing up an unrelated incident, and reiterating your unsubstantiated claim.

    With all the cameramen starving for footage to demonize Israel, combined with the number of those injured or killed, there would at least be some evidence if a peaceful protester was shot. We can all agree that no one should be shot for holding a sign or chanting, right?

    Instead, the cameras were conveniently turned away from those who were shot or the footage is being withheld to conceal their actions. Keep in mind that the Palestinian side has a history of working the camera to generate images to create people like you.

    Where your side consistently fails is that demonizing Israel had done nothing to improve the lives of the Palestinian people. In spite of their successful media campaign against Israel, and the massive amount of aid given to them, there is no progress.

    While you and I may see things differently, we are both still looking at the most accurate example of the definition of insanity.
     
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    What is insane is that you think you can get away with all this deflection when the video is there for all to see, man standing in a field is shot, you want me to prove he was a peaceful protester. Logic turned on its head. Now if you have some evidence that he was not a peaceful protester show it.
     
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    You made it seem so obvious that he was a peaceful protester and that my vision was impaired if I could not see it. Now that your own post backfired on you, you are trying to get me to support a claim I never made. I already said I wasn't there.

    For all those who have unimpaired vision, it is obvious that this strategy has done nothing to improve the lives of the Palestinian people. There is a term for expecting different results from doing the same thing over and over again.
     
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    Again he was a peaceful protester, who was shot. If you have any evidence otherwise show it. I am happy to just keep repeating the truth whilst you try to deflect.
     
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    A slightly longer video again showing the peaceful protester being shot, if anyone has any evidence to show he was not a peaceful protester please show it.

     
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    There's that claim again. Stating it as if it was a fact does not make it one. You can wear out your keyboard claiming you know something you don't, but you're not fooling anyone who has unimpaired vision. Why not just be honest and say that it is your opinion?
     
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    Having posted a longer video you still refuse to provide any evidence to show he was not a peaceful protester, none, nada, nothing! You simply refuse to believe the evidence of your own eyes! It would be funny if not for the tragic consequences for this young man!
     

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