“THIS IS DO-OR-DIE”: JOE BIDEN’S “ELECTABILITY” ARGUMENT IS HOW DEMOCRATS LOSE ELECTIONS

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  1. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    Still waiting for someone to point out something Trump lied about. Bill Clinton is a lecherous pig. He raped Juanita Broderick. He assaulted Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones. There's no comparison between him and Trump. Bill Clinton, now that's a liar. That's an adulterer. Forget about Trump before he ran. Look at his record as President. He's one of the best Presidents ever.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not agree that the so called left embrace Castro or Chavez. The radicals of the ‘60s and early ‘70s perhaps but after years of not even holding elections most liberals saw through Castro. Chavez was a result of constant meddling by CIA in Central and South America which installed several puppet right wing sellouts into power down there. Murderous scumbags like Pinochet and several others were propped up by US right wingers.
     
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    I did not say he was, I said he was a race baiter.
     
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    he lied about the payoff to the porn star of the top of my head. But for a running count.

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
     
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    Well played.

    In any event, Anybody asking the Question:

    "What did Trump lie about?"

    Is the equivalent of asking:

    "Is there water in the ocean?"

    Everybody knows (or should know) the answer.

    Trump LIES about everything/There IS water in the ocean/Etc.:salute:
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    I don't think he lied about the payment to Stormy Daniels. Politifact is a Democrat website. That whole fact checking gig is just a bunch of liberals making up lies about what conservatives say.

    If that is all you got then in my view, Trump is not a liar.

    Pretty pathetic that that's all you can think of off the top of your head. I mean, who cares? Didn't your side set the standard a lie about sex isn't a lie? Don't you remember the whole Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky scandal? He lied to a federal judge. That was about an affair in the Oval office. Trump's indiscretion goes back 10 years. That has nothing to do with now.

    How about "Mexico will pay for it!" Try that one.
     
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    No he never lies. Trump tells the truth and that's why liberals hate him. This is just smears intended to drive down his popularity ratings in hope some stupid NPC Democrat can beat him in 2020. But you can't. His popularity rating was lower than Crooked Hillary's and he still beat her.

    The one's who said, "Trump colluded with Russia" and, "Trump is an agent of Russia" and "Trump is Putin's puppet" are the liars. Which is, everybody on your side.

    What a bunch of liars! Shame on you!
     
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    Revisionist history meet truth.

    "In also examining allegations of sexual harassment against the president, Starr uncovered an affair between Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, a White House intern.

    "Clinton denied under oath that he had engaged in sexual relations with Lewinsky. That testimony led Starr to accuse the president of perjury and obstruction of justice, which in turn prompted his grand jury appearance."

    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/this-day-in-politics-aug-17-1998-226998

    " On January 17, 1998, President Clinton provided, under
    oath, numerous false answers to Ms. Jones's questions during
    his deposition. In the days immediately following the
    deposition, he provided a false and misleading account to
    another witness, Betty Currie, in hopes that she would
    substantiate the false testimony he gave in the deposition.
    These actions denied Ms. Jones her rights as a litigant,
    subverted the fundamental truth seeking function of the United
    States District Court for the Eastern District of Arkansas, and
    violated President Clinton's constitutional oath to ``preserve,
    protect and defend the Constitution of the United States'' and
    his constitutional duty to ``take care that the laws be
    faithfully executed.''
    Beginning shortly after his deposition, President Clinton
    became aware that a federal grand jury empaneled by the United
    States District Court for the District of Columbia was
    investigating his actions before and during his civil
    deposition. President Clinton made numerous false statements to
    potential grand jury witnesses in hopes that they would repeat
    these statements to the grand jury. On August 17, 1998,
    President Clinton appeared before the grand jury by video and,
    under oath, provided numerous false answers to the questions
    asked. T
    hese actions impeded the grand jury's investigation,
    subverted the fundamental truth seeking function of the United
    States District Court for the District of Columbia, and
    violated President Clinton's constitutional oath to ``preserve,
    protect and defend the Constitution of the United States'' and
    his constitutional duty to ``take care that the laws be
    faithfully executed.''

    https://www.congress.gov/congressional-report/105th-congress/house-report/830/
     
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    "Over the years, celebrities made pilgrimages to Havana. Each time they marveled at the supposed excellence of Cuba’s medical care and quality of education. In the immediate aftermath of Castro’s death, the pattern was repeated. Typical was Andrea Mitchell, who gushed on MSNBC: “(Castro) gave his people better health care and education.”

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/opin...erals-praise-fidel-castro-20161129-story.html
     
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    yes, Clinton lied about having an affair... a personal question that never should of been asked

    let's get Trump under oath and ask him personal questions, like did he say story reminded him of his daughter after he had sex with stormy?
     
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    ''''

    Yeah,ok they are making it up. There are things called recordings. And knowing what we know about Clinton, if he got elected dog catcher he would have to be chaperoned when picking up a female dog. .
     
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    Well there's 10,000 lies to choose from. So many but I guess it's really hard to just name one.
     
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    In some ways Castro has provided for the people there however no freedom of speech and no free elections have taken their toll. For Thor the sake of the good people of Cuba, I hope they can regain those rights and become free trade partners with us again soon.
     
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    Please read again what I had written!
    I did not defend Obama, nor am I a fan of him ... but it's just a fact that he was handed over by the 2008 crisis a pile of rubble from Bush. And the cost of doing so ... to prevent a depression like in the late 1920's / early 1930's, a lot of tax money was needed, more than what the revenue was!
    This fact must always be considered here with Obama ... but she does not excuse the drastic increase by far!
     
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    Which people give a testinomy again, eh? Look on the "whom they are"!
     
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    Your reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking. Clinton lied about having sex in the workplace with an employee. His numerous affairs outside of that were never an issue.
     
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    The truth is Castro has kept Cuba dirt poor with his communist policies and now they even have food rationing
     
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    Clinton never should of been asked about having consensual sex in his home... that is the point you do not understand
     
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    the white house was his home at the time, just as the white house is Trump's home right now

    it was a consensual relationship, Trump has cheated on his wives too

    Trump may of even had sex in the white house too, though he is getting pretty old, stuff may not be working anymore
     
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    In the working office with a subordinate. End of story.
     
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    consensual, end of story, between him and his wife

    just like Trump's affairs are between him and his many wives
     
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    Your opinion is yours but Clinton was disbarred for his perjury so your opinion is worthless.
     
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    yes, he was not impeached by the Senate, it was a Parisian push to remove him, they could not find any crimes, so they tried to go after his private consensual sex life, to e fair though, back then Republicans acted like they were the family value moral party

    some on the right have changed

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