1,000 people double-voted in Georgia primary, secretary of state says

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  1. struth

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    1) they are only fighting against Universial mail in voting...not absentee
    2) I never suggested republicans dont do it as well...but an op-ed targeting the GOP isn't proof they do it more...but thank you for highlighting point 3 for me...that is very common.....i do find one case interesting...that a mail carry was changing votes...wow....
    3) cases every year doesn't prove it's common? Something that happens every single year there is an election doesn't make it common? Ooooook How many bees are in the world? Sharks? how many elections do we have a year? Sorry three events....in this case 1000s....in just a few months...makes it common....here is a sampling from around the country https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf
     
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    1) Fighting against mail-in voting during a pandemic is fighting against legal voting.
    2) The majority of confirmed voter fraud cases involving partisan motives have involved the GOP more so than the dems.
    3) No, cases every year do not prove it is common, as I've already proven. Just because something happens every year does not mean it is common. Lots of uncommon things happen every year. I'd encourage you to look into the math of your own link. Even the Heritage Foundation doesn't back you up here. You are, at best, talking about a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of votes.
     
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    1) fighting against making illegal voting and fraud easier is the right thing to do...as we have seen...it's rather common. So that's why fighting against Universail Mail in voting is legit....
    2) I am looking for some proof of that still...your op-ed didn't prove that...because it didn't even look at dem cases
    3) Your own link highlights how common it is....I was just providing more cases for you. A percentage of a percentage of a vote? What does that even mean? I am talking about cases...they are routine regular....and those are just the ones caught.....you claim to want to prosecute these cases, but at the same breath want to make it easier for people to get away with it, or for it to happen...via your support for Universial Mail in voting
     
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    1) No matter how you cut it, your proposals will be a lot more effective at cutting legal voting than at cutting illegal voting.
    2) You can look for yourself if you want. There are far more documented GOP cases.
    3) Someone didn't read the link. And, no, your link does not show that illegal voting is in any way common. It shows the opposite. Of the .000006% of votes that are illegal, we should prosecute them, but they aren't significant when it comes to the outcome of the election. What aren't you understanding about that?
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I listened to the GA sec of state who said GA has a very thorough system that provides multiple options for voters, but they do check for this and they will prosecute.
     
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    This is total nonsense.

    Mail in voting IS absentee voting. There aren't two systems. Why would a state implement TWO vote by mail systems???

    The only issues are:
    - who gets to use it

    - whether the state bothers to make it secure

    - whether to continue paying for the polling places that are rife with systemic fraud, as elected officials and others manipulate the system to achieve the outcome they want.
     
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    The question is where they look.

    They are NOT looking at the systemic fraud that is the current polling place based system - the tools used by elected officieals and others to make significant differences in election outcomes.
     
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    Explain how you or ANYONE can "know" there is widespread fraud if no one who is searching diligently for years ever finds any.

    So you are admitting it is only in your imagination. LOL!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!

    <COMMENT EDITED>

    I love how the right claims there is plenty of evidence of widespread fraud but they can't produce any. :roflol:
     
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    You really aren't up to date on teh topic....nobody has taken issue with absentee voting, universail mail in voting is what some, including the state of NV recently, have been pushing. Absentee voting requires a voter to request the ballot, universial does not.

    um election officials still get absentee and universial voting ballots
    How are polling places rife wtih fraud? when i go, i show my ID and voter registration card...then go vote, nobody gets my ballot...so not sure how at my polling place there is fraud
     
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    Note worthy, or if you will CYOA ;)
     
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    I have to chuckle at how actual votes messed with is no big deal yet a few Facebook trolls is reason to call a Special Counsel to investigate. How many votes did the Russians change? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Which election in question, there were hundreds of elections in Georgia. And you continue to dodge. ONE VOTE could have changed who controlled the state legislature in Virginia. That's a pretty key thing. Florida 2000 by a mere 538 votes in the entire state. It doesn't have to be massive to change the outcome of an election. We have a very close election for mayor coming up the difference could be single digit, why do you seem to be oblvious to the fact there are thousands of smaller elections in this country each having impacts on the those local governments and the citizens who live there.

    As I said stop with the canard voter fraud doesn't matter because it has to be some HUGE number in order to affect and election. That is pure Democrat spin you are swallowing hook line and sinker.
     
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    Florida 2000 is "cherry picking"? :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    I have given you several KEY elections and you just want to claim "well those don't count:" because the prove the fallacy of your claims.
     
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    And I showed you that is incorrect. 538 in 67 counties could have changed Florida 2000 but the more precise measure is by polling places and in 2004 there were 5,433 polling places where a single fraudulent vote could have been cast. Just one fraudulent vote in just 10% of the polling places could have changed the outcome.
    https://dos.myflorida.com/media/693342/2004pollingsites.pdf

    Stop digging your hole with your canard shovel.
     
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    Yeah, 1000 votes, who cares...

    "The Florida election recount of 2000 was a period of vote recounting in Florida that occurred during the weeks after Election Day in the 2000 United States presidential election between George W. Bush and Al Gore. The Florida vote was ultimately settled in Bush's favor by a margin of 537 votes when the U.S. Supreme Court, in Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been initiated upon a ruling by the Florida Supreme Court.

    Bush's win in Florida gave him a majority of votes in the Electoral College and victory in the presidential election.[1]"

    Bet you had a different opinion then, huh?
     
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    It has been found, just because you don’t want to recognize it doesn’t make it untrue lmao. I’ve already demonstrated your opinion is incorrect. Winninggg
     
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    As with Bluesguy, you are assuming these 1,000 all broke the same direction. There is no reason to assume that. And you are admitting that, even if they were roughly 50/50, that it would taken something as historically close and monumental as the 2000 Florida vote in order for it to make a difference.
     
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    "they are only fighting against Universial mail in voting...not absentee"

    Hasn't been expanded in my Republican state
     
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    1000 is a round number. We can be sure that it was not less than 1000, but can never be sure how many more.

    You should see Los Angeles.

    Cue whatever that is people listen to here!
     
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    I saw that, seems the right thing to do. Presonally I don't know why someone would vote twice knowing the risk to reward is so off.
     
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    ”These voters submitted absentee ballots but also voted in person” — where have we heard someone advocating for that recently?
    I take your 1000 cases of people doing what the president is now basically advocating today and raise you 87,000:
    https://www.ajc.com/news/state--reg...-nation-largest-purge/jRlixHpVs0I9wVQYdDjxvM/

    How about we get rid of archaic, inconvenient and unsecured elections and move to one that isn’t — prosecute anyone attempting to interfere or alter the results in any way and work on making it as secure as possible?
     
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    I think you might be confused...
     
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    Or that these are actually double votes. I'll wait until the local DA's are through investigating.
     

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