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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am retired Air Force. I swore to uphold the Constitution about a half dozen times. I care strongly about the Constitution.
    I do not argue directly with the president and have no say about what he says or does. On the other hand, I argue frequently with you and others. There is no reason why we cannot keep it civil. It appears that you find that impossible to do for some unknown reason.
     
  2. ECA

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    Except there hasn’t been an election overturned by illegal voting.

    Well now you know. You’re welcome
     
  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of all the hundreds of thousands of local elections, you know this how?
    The welcome would only be appropriate if I believed and accepted what you are saying and I don't.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    My suspicions are confirmed.
     
  5. ECA

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    I know this by the fact that you are unable to provide proof any election has been overturned due to illegal voting. But by all means, please provide proof of all the elections overturned by illegal voting. I’ll be waiting
     
  6. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would expect no better out of you. Being civil is beyond your capability.
     
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    BUT by then it is too late. Isn't t better to have procedures in place beforehand?
     
  8. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know no such thing. Out of the hundreds of thousand local elections, millions, if you include all past elections, you don't think a single election was ever turned over by fraud? That is beyond credibility and borders on impossible.
     
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    Then post links showing elections overturned by illegal voting. I’ll be waiting
     
  10. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't need to. You said you know. You can't possibly know that fraud did not overturn even one election out of millions.
     
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    Haha...if you had proof you’d show it. You know it, I know it, he’ll...we all know it. Face it, you got called out for spewing nonsense.
     
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    For what? There is no illegal voting problem.
     
  13. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are the one who needs proof. You claim you know that there has been no election overturned by fraud. In order to know that, you would have reviewed millions of elections and somehow confirmed there was no fraud in a single one of them.

    I believe it is nearly statistically impossible for at least one election not to have been turned over by fraud.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But here you go.
    "Voter fraud is too nominal to make a difference in any given election, goes one popular line of argument. But tell that to voters in parts of Florida, Missouri, New York, and North Carolina in recent years.

    Districts in these four states saw election outcomes overturned after absentee voter fraud came to light."
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04...wn-out-because-of-fraudulent-mail-in-ballots/

    Now prove to me that you know there has been no election ever turned over because of voter fraud.

    Also, note that this was problems with absentee ballots, which are mailed in.
     
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    Right....
     
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    They've 'lost' mine a few times. They refunded me after I reported the fraud, but its by no means secure enough to entrust with the accuracy of our political representation.
     
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    But it can be. We are Americans. We can do this.
     
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    course you know that only happens on the right....
     
  19. ECA

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    Nope. You were the one who originally claimed voter fraud has at some point overturned an election. Therefore it’s upon YOU to prove such.
     
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    I have no problem admitting I was wrong about lower level elections. Something a majorly of people on this forum are incapable of.
    I still stand by the fact that no federal election has or ever will be impacted by voter fraud.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Show me where I used those words. Don's misquote me. You said "I know".
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Earlier I said I doubted that voter fraud affected a national election. However, that does not mean fraud has never occurred or that it might affect a national election.
     
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    Can you show me any evidence at the federal election level that illegal votes could affect the outcome?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you want to play that sort of game, prove that it could not possibly affect the outcome.

    I don't want election fraud at either the national or local level. It can and has occurred at the local level. To say that it is impossible in a close election for election fraud to change the results at the national level is putting your head in the sand.
     
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    YOU made the claim voter fraud might affect a national election so it’s upon you to prove such. The only one playing a game is you. Put up or shut up.
     

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