1 person dead, suspect in custody following shooting at Denver protests: Police

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, the right wing nutso have everyone else beat, and they lost last time with their civil war, yet still wave that Confederate flag
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am just waiting on the video, someone has to have one
     
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    I saw part of them in a Louis Le Vau video. Google is getting much better at censoring videos that do not fit the narrative. Complete MSM blackout on this story. So much for our "free" press,

    You can watch his video here. You can find snippets of the incident here that I could not find anywhere else.


    Even more great info here. The shooter was a Bernie supporter.
     
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  4. FreshAir

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    yeah, saw the police video released and the youtube, but not enough to tell what happened, need a real full video
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have always said that, I am not like the right that tries to deny their side has any
     
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    In this video, you can see 40 seconds of conversation, then the victim walks offscreen and 5 seconds later is shot. I believe he walked towards the shooter, slapped him, pulled his mace and then was fatally shot... all in the space of 5 seconds.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1315098231798337536

    I appears that the shooter is BLM and not AntiFa... according to Tim Poole (and he names his sources).
     
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    The shooter is Matthew Robert Doloff. He's got a long history of leftist activism on social media.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wake up, my friend... WAKE UP!!! :hiding:
     
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    When you are defending yourself of another from the an immediate threat and expectation (as defined by what any rational person would perceive in the same situation) of suffering either death or great bodily harm and then the force applied to end the threat must be proportional to that required to end the immediate threat. While jurors are expected to judge the threat level as being what they would perceive if in the identical situation, that threshold of perceived threat is different for different people, for instance, given my background and training, I place a very high bar on myself in perceiving a threat, likely very much higher than most... certainly higher that most women, and even men, of small stature that have never been exposed to violence. Simple assault against me, in my mind would not constitute, for me, responding with deadly force; I have been in that type of situation, more than once in my past, and have not felt justified in applying deadly force, yet have successfully defended myself and others from violence in the past, including disarming an assailant three times in my life without applying deadly force.
    While I believe in self defense, carry multiple means for defense to meet different escalating threat levels, including daily carrying a fire arm, and I believe in doing what is proportionally necessary to end a threat, I also support, and accept on my part, that any responsible use of force resulting in injury or death, should be subjected to judicial review to determine if the use of force was reasonable under the law... that includes any use of force by law enforcement (however, I do not believe that the use of force for self defense should be subject to requiring an affirmative legal defense).
    There is a line, sometimes crossed, where a threat has been ended, and then the victim of assault has transitioned from self defense to become (either, from anger, feeling entitled to seek to punish) the aggressor. For instance, if someone stops a threat, by whatever means and then proceeds to inflict either great bodily harm or death on a person who had initiated the need for self defense after the immediate threat was stopped, they have transitioned into an unjustified use of force.
     
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    Perhaps, perhaps not. But, the determination of whether the use of deadly force was justified or not should be subject to a review in a Court of law, the outcome of among which has an added benefit of further delineating the rules of engagement, responsibility and accountability in such a situation.
     
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    That's the left wing media's plan.
     
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    If someone is pepper sprayed they are being assaulted, and retaliation with a firearm is fully justified IMHO. People with issues like asthma, etc. could possibly be killed by pepper spray. Anyone who thinks otherwise please spray yourself in the face with some high quality pepper spray and report back what your experience is like.

    In our current period of stress it is best to just stay home and not going looking for trouble regardless of one's political views. Just sayin.
     
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    What was the dead man hoping to accomplish by slapping and spraying bear repellent into the face of an armed man?
     
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    I am a firm believer in the right to be armed and the right to use a firearm for defense against lethal force and/or an attack that involves a disparity of force. That being said, anyone who uses a firearm for self defense can probably expect to spend thousands of dollars in legal fees. The best approach for self defense is to avoid situations that could involve violence.

    That being said, the liberal media who constantly attack the 2nd Amendment are total hypocrites by engaging armed security guards for protection.
     
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    And, when have they ever delivered on a promise?
     
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    I am often amused by anti gun advocates that threaten the lives of those advocating for the rights of people to be armed... or really, threaten the lives of anyone disagreeing with their agendas, like those of BLM, ANTIFA, abortion, LGBTQ rights, etc. To many, the Constitution is a provisional document to be weaponized when it suits their agenda but to be ignored when it doesn’t.
    Then there is the cognitive dissonance of their views; remove individual gun rights only allowing LE to possess them while simultaneously calling to defund police. We need anarchy... then, peace and nonviolence will reign... yeah...Promises.
     
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    My general impression is that juries decide these things on a What Would I Have Done standard.
     
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    Clearly another far left pro antifa trump hating murderer just like Portland.

    And of course in this thread, he's defended by the same crowd.
     
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    Everyone has issues, but the sheer volume of violence from the Left utterly dwarfs anything from the right. Not even comparable.
     
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    That answers the question of who shot first, not who pulled first.
     
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    Ha. The democrats refused to condemn the violence. Democrat mayors and governors allow it to continue thinking it hurts Trump's chances to win. Biden & Harris are actually bailing out rioters and violent criminals.

    The ONLY ones with matches and gas cans in their hands are Biden and Harris and the entire democrat party and all the Democrat politicians (and their rebel army of anarchists and communists Antifa and BLM).
     
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    Lol...it’s not so much fun when it happens to one of your right wing peeps, eh? Maybe now you’ll grasp why blacks don’t particularly like it when rogue cops murder them for much less.
     
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    Kyle did flee. 1 guy tried killing him with a skateboard as he ran. The other guys were shooting at him as he fled while he took took cover. You didn't know? And Kyle is allowed to stand his ground by the way. But when you look at the arrest history of those who died and were attacking Kyle, is it surprising? Nope.
     
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    The fact you find this funny tells us all we need to know.
     
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    If they were patriotic Americans, they wouldn’t have allowed trump to last this long in a job for which he is monumentally unfit.
     

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