#1 reason Palestinian "leadership" won't make peace with Israel...

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    You can read about it in Youtube "The Palestinian wall of lies".
     
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    This one?

     
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    This Vice video is from 2012 and is about Hamas and Gaza. The greatest enemy of the Palestinian people is Palestinian leadership. There's a reason why Arab-Israelis don't move to Gaza or the West Bank.

     
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    Let the pales live in more filth and poverty for another 100 yrs
     
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    The Corona period stopped Palestinian terror and violence, but soon they will again send missiles at Israel.
     
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    I do think Trumps peace plan was unfair with dividing up the West Bank into islands
    Anyways ..the pales will reject anything
     
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    The Trump peace plan is unfair to the Israelis.
    Arabs have 22 Large countries , why should they want more land :wierdface:
     
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    I mean, can't we say the same thing as Israeli leadership?
     
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    No.
     
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    “Hey, our right wing base likes it when we establish security against Palestine through military force.”
    “So what you’re saying is bang bang boom boom is good for us? Let’s keep lighting it up!!!”
     
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    This doesn't make sense.
     
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    Voter base wants military action. Politician wants to get elected so appeals to base. Politican in office has to fulfill pressures from electoral base.

    Pretty straightforward.
     
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    Aren't you forgetting something?

    Yep, you are. First, there were many left-wing governments in Israel. Second, compulsory military service means that voter base includes parents who want their children to live a long and prosperous life. Third, voter base wants security, not military action per se.

    You really don't know anything about Israel.
     
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    No, I haven’t forgotten those. I’m taking those into account.
    1. There’s research that suggests there’s something special about right wing governments and “security”
    2. There is a sizable minority of religious objectors that will vote for right wing parties.
    3. I already mentioned security.
     
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    #1 reason Palestinian "leadership" won't make peace with Israel

    Is because it's a death cult founded on a terrorist manifesto.
    Yeah, that's a great foundation on which to build a lasting peace.
     
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    • The 1999 Likud Party platform emphasizes the right of settlement.
    "The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting."[46]

    Similarly, they claim the Jordan River as the permanent eastern border to Israel and it also claims Jerusalem as belonging to Israel.

    • The 'Peace & Security' chapter of the 1999 Likud Party platform rejects a Palestinian state.
    "The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration, and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs."[46]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud
     
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    And so that's why Palestine is a death cult.
     
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    Because both sides want irreducible land and both sides think that God will favor them in this? Or that if they work hard enough they can get states formed under colonial pretensions to unite together and have an Arab national state?
     
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    Only one side is a death cult.

    Guess which one.
     
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    The one that gets weapons from another state and has strong 'use it or lose it' incentive to continue getting funding?
     
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    No, the one that pays rewards to terrorists who kill people and reveres them like they're rock stars.

    That would be the death cult one.
     
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    Israel doesn't pay for a security apparatus that wants to keep funding? Sounds like bureaucracy is the death cult.
     

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