100s of Thousands flee Germany to avoid the Islamic takeover

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    Does it matter? They'll blame the US anyway.
     
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    This topic is hilarious.

    1. Germany work abroad in EU. Free movement, free Work permission. Evry year tenthousands do that. In my apprenticeship, i was 6 months in spain. Counted as emmigration as well.

    2. 650.000 americans leave USA each year

    3. The Muslim bullshit amuses me Most. Germany has less than we once had jews. In eastern Germany nearly Zero. Meanwhile USA is flooded by the scum of the world.

    Get real and stop bullshit Postings. Im far right i hate migrants but bullshit Like this Here is too much
     
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    Breitbart can't give us details. That is because the article is a blatant lie. Right-wing extremist fake news. :(
     
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  4. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This post is based on fact. Read the article if you need proof. Don't worry, when they want to knock down your home to put up another mosque, we will welcome you with open arms.
     
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    There are people still brainwashed and dumb enough to read and trust breitbart? I thought folks were more intelligent than that, but apparently that's not the case.
    First, that breitbart article doesn't say what the OP claims, it doesn't mention an "islamic takeover", so that's a lie on the part of the OP.
    Second, people are not "fleeing", another lie.
    Third, breitbart, of course, leave out important facts that don't fit their political narrative and talk only about a tiny fraction of the whole picture and even that is, probably deliberatly, put into a certain context driven by their political agenda. Plus, there are several passages in which that article quotes other breitbart articles as a source; that's their kind of "journalism"? One can only shake one's head.

    People have been leaving and coming to Germany for decades, but of course something that has been a normal thing for more than 25 years is now related to Islam. One can't make this up.

    Let's look at the numbers for 2018 to clear up that idiotic nonsense.
    2018:
    1,59 million came to Germany.
    Who came? Sorted by total numbers these were people from
    1. Romania
    2. Poland
    3. Bulgaria
    4. Italy
    5. Croatia
    etc
    https://de.statista.com/statistik/d...laender-der-zuwanderer-nach-deutschland-2009/

    1,19 million left the country. Who left? 262,000 were Germans.
    Vast majority who left were non-Germans (928,000), sorted by numbers,
    1. Romanians
    2. Poles
    3. Bulgarians
    4. Italians
    5. Hungarians
    6. Turks.
    etc
    https://de.statista.com/themen/46/einwanderung/
    https://de.statista.com/statistik/d...swanderung-aus-deutschland-nach-ziellaendern/
    https://de.statista.com/statistik/d...laender-der-auswanderer-aus-deutschland-2009/


    Germans who left in 2018 (262,000) emigrated to (sorted by total numbers):
    1. Switzerland
    2. Austria
    3. US
    4. UK
    5. Spain
    6. Turkey
    7. France
    etc.
    https://de.statista.com/statistik/d...tzuege-von-deutschen-in-europaeische-laender/

    None of them "fled" the country, almost all of them emigrated to said places for professional reasons. Plus, it's a constant patttern that the vast majority come back usually after five to seven years.
    Regarding the video: Gregor Gysi doesn't say that it's "good Germans are being replaced", that's another false breitbart claim. Mr. Gysi is a well-known politician within the left party Die Linke, that's all. He's not a member of the government, he doesn't hold an important office, he's not a political decision maker of any kind. Of course, breitbart doesn't tell you that, it would destroy their propaganda narrative.
    Depending on which source we look at, between 5,4% and 5,6% of the population in Germany are Muslims, still there are sheepish gullible fools who simply can't get the most basic facts through their thick skulls and keep on repeating the same old nonsense over and over again as if facts didn't exist. Sad.
     
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  7. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Temporary immigrants that breed like rabbits. There is really nothing they can do about the islamification of Germany. Damage is already done. Oh well. At least the name hasn't been changed to germanistan yet!
     
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    That's not an article, just a snippet of right wing propaganda from Breitbart.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can be in denial all you want. Thay doesn't make it factual. I'm sorry the facts are hard to handle but facts are facts!
    Germans who left in 2018 (262,000) emigrated to (sorted by total numbers):
    1. Switzerland
    2. Austria
    3. US
    4. UK
    5. Spain
    6. Turkey
    7. France
    etc.
    https://de.statista.com/statistik/d...tzuege-von-deutschen-in-europaeische-laender/

    BOOM!
     
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    If they just Green Card, than they will have a little problem when they hit 65.
    No social security and Medicare in the US, even that they have paid in.
    If they work for a longer time abroad, for a non German company, they probably are not paying tax in Germany.
    Because of it they have a laps of payments in the German social network, especially retirement is efected
    Except for the US and Turkey, they are all EU countries or member of the Schengen zone.
    BOOM.
    What do you think the EU or Schengen zone is all about ?
     
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    This is one of the most ridiculous threads in a very long time, it really makes you wonder why some people lie through their teeth yet seriously claim to be right. How afraid of losing face must they be.
    262,000 Germans left Germany in 2018.
    202,000 Germans who had left a few years earlier to live and work in another country came back to Germany in 2018.
    Meaning: in 2018, close to 60,000 Germans left the country. This is less than 0.1% of the whole population.
    60,000 and 'hundreds of thousands' is not the same, obviously this is too complicated for some.

    https://www.destatis.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/2019/07/PD19_271_12411.html
    "2018 gab es rund 202 000 Zuzüge von bislang im Ausland lebenden Deutschen"

    What the breitbart article doesn't mention is the number of native Germans returning to the country every year. Of course they avoid these numbers on purpose to create their highly incorrect narrative and feed the illinformed and clueless.
    Nobody fled, that's a lie, and they didn't leave to avoid an "islamic takeover" that's also a lie. Why do people have to make up this bs. Really pathetic.
     
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    Most Germans who immigrate do that for job opportunities, business opportunities and than return.
    Like me, a happy Kraut living in the US and planning to return to Germany upon retirement and than probably settle till the end in Portugal or maybe Spain, because of the climate and living cost. I have payed taxes in Germany through the German part of my company. cost a little extra money, but it has kept me in the system.
    Nothing beats the German System, quality and cost wise.
    You have to be a complete idiot to throw that away.
    US system sucks, especially retirement system, one of the worst in the industrial world, more 3rd world standard.
    Everybody who has left Germany, knows how outstanding the German system. Six month and they know they will eventual return into the System, or if they are smart never leave the system and pay the extra cost.
     
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    Temporary German immigrants, who breed than like rabbits, in the US.
    That is something new.

    BOOM.
     
  14. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say germans.

    BOOM
     
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    My response was to Germans leaving.

    How much Boom do you need ?
     
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    You can look it up.
    Most Germans move to some other country in the Europe.
    Turkey is the first semi non European country if you will and ranked 6th.


    The EU simply has open borders. Germans can live and work where they want in the EU, and so they do. Hence they immigrate.
     
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    Nothing new.
    The % of ethnic Germans in the US is utterly massive.
    Donald Trump is one of them. His grandfather was Friedrich Trumpf.
     
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    They read a Breitbart article, or infowar or jihadwatch and have absolute no, nada, null knowledge about what they are reading.
    What makes it worse, they make no attempt to get a broader knowledge.
    Schengen, what is that ?
    Little town in Europe.
    EU is that evil comi dictatorship across the Atlantic, run over by Muslims, especially that Germany ( head of the evil empire ).
     
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    I don't have a lot of sympathy for the Germans - though I know many of them didn't support Merkel. Ronald Reagan led America and the world in bringing an end to one of the most brutal governments in the history of mankind in GDR. The wall got torn down. The German nation was reunited. And then, like the socialists in the US who think we just haven't yet done socialism right, they voted for an East German socialist as their prime minister. What did they expect?
     
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    Yep. Everyone claims to hate everything we are but they keep coming here when the want a better place to be. There's virtually no one leaving the US for better nations elsewhere (because there are none), regardless of their promises when Trump was elected.
     
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    You wish, Germany is the fourth largest economy in zee vourl.Ja.
     
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    A lot of retirees are leaving the US for places like Belize.
     
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    The claim that no 'mericans leave for "better nations", better say other developed countries, is simply false. A quick search shows that, and whether a country is "better" is completely subjective and based on personal opinion. Apparently US authorities don't keep track of people emigrating, they estimate 9 mill. (non-military) us citizens live abroad. Statistics from destination countries have more exact data.
    738,203 live in Canada (2011).
    https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm...=0&S=0&SHOWALL=0&Temporal=2013&THEME=95&VID=0
    This article says almost 1 mill.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/glo...ffered-to-americans-in-canada/article4372266/
    197,355 live in the UK.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_in_the_United_Kingdom
    ~100,000 live in France.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150418070413/http://france.usembassy.gov/us-france-americans.html
    107,755 live in Germany.
    https://web.archive.org/web/2017120...ssereuropaeische-Laender-fast-verdoppelt.html
    in 2011, 584,000 lived in the EU.
    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/stati...20_foreign-born_communities_living_in_the_EU-28%2C_2011_PITEU17.png

    Bottom line is, millions of us citizens live in other countries, and they probably have their reasons. But all that is not the point here. The point is the highly incorrect article and added lies in the OP.

    BTW, it's important to note that the EU doesn't have open borders, it has domestic open borders for EU citizens; two different things.
     
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    Once again, attacking the person is what you do when you know you've lost the debate.
     
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    Living abroad isn't saying those countries are better. They're not giving up their US citizenship and becoming citizens of those countries, are they?
     

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