11 year old girl in AZ admits to being the girlfriend of a 20 year old man

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Robert, you still didn't answer the question. how tough can it be?? One last chance, if you don't answer it then I know you are afraid to admit that i'm right. What if they were minors and became pregnant? Would you allow them to make the decision on whether or not to have an abortion?
     
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    Wha......??
     
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    "...It wins nothing if you screen immigrants..."

    Refusing to allow in immigrants from cultures that prefer child marriage will reduce the rates of child marriage, as the rates will be higher if we let them in to do it.

    Or, we can call it keeping the rates lower, if you prefer. Is that a 'win' compared to the rates rising, or not?
     
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    Try quoting the whole sentence and not cherry picking
     
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    Ok...

    Refusing to allow in immigrants from cultures that prefer child marriage will reduce the rates of child marriage, as the rates will be higher if we let them in to do it.

    Or, we can call it keeping the rates lower, if you prefer.

    Is that a 'win' compared to the rates rising, or not?
     
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    And what about the rates of child marriage happening inside America?

    I am simply pointing out duplicity
     
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    And refusing to answer a simple question.

    Of course ending child marriage entirely would be great. Please tell me how.

    In the meantime, I propose we reduce it by avoiding importing it.
     
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    Forcing them to have an abortion would be evil.

    Why, would you force them to have an abortion? How far would you go if they resisted?
     
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    Forcing them to keep the fetus would be evil IMO. Why on earth would you force a 13 year old to have a baby? As the parent of the child I get to make certain decisions that I think are in her best interest. If your under age daughter wanted wanted to start smoking, taking drugs or drinking alcohol do you think you should have a say in it or not?
     
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    But can you admit, forcing her to undergo the procedure to kill the fetus inside her would be even more evil?

    It's her reasons, isn't it?
    Are you saying it's okay for us to start questioning her choice?


    Does that include killing your grandbaby? (Oops, sorry, grandfetus)

    We are talking about making a choice to kill a fetus when the one making that choice is not the one whom that fetus is inside of.
    Obviously we are not talking about "pro-choice" here.
     
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    None of those things involve killing a human being though. Not just any human being but her child.
    Forcing your daughter to have her unborn child killed is child abuse. On two counts really.

    That is so so cruel. Forcing her to get an abortion could end up being more traumatic to her than if you molested her.
    (At least that's I've heard some women say in documentary interviews)
     
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    No. It's not evil at all.


    Yes I am.



    It include abortion of a fetus or pre-baby or whatever name you choose to call it.

    that is very correct. Under law, minors do not have a choice.

    If you do not believe in abortion, then by all means, do not have one.
     
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    You are very wrong; all of those things do kill; do you know how many teenagers die while driving drunk? Or how many drug overdoses happen each day (it's epidemic in the US) or second-hand smoke kills others? So can you answer my original question? or are you going to throw up more futile roadblocks?
     
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    Whereas I am suggesting addressing the WHOLE problem not just one itty bitty corner

    You don’t even know what percentage of child brides are immigrants
     
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    How do you suggest we address the whole problem?
     
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    Raise the legal age of marriage
     
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    We are. Two states have done so. A few others are working on it. It won't happen quick.

    While we're doing that, why not also screen out immigrants from cultures that value marrying children? Immigration is Federal jurisdiction, and one law can effect all 50 states, as opposed to marriage laws that each state has its own jurisdiction over.
     
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    What state is this? I also studied law and I'm not familiar with any state that makes this kind of distinction. All the state laws I'm familiar with are based on calendar age alone, not "biological age". Child in South America got pregnant at FOUR, gave birth at FIVE, so "biological age" means nothing.

    How Lina Medina Became History's Youngest Mother At Age 5
    https://allthatsinteresting.com/lina-medina
     
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    Dat's racist! All the cultures that value child marriage are black, Hispanic, or Muslim. Curiously, the age of consent for sex in the Philippines is 12, but the age of consent to marry is 18. (Warning for any guys planning a trip to the Philippines: the American government in its infinite wisdom has decided American law applies to American men overseas, so if you have sex with a 12 year old in the Philippines, you can go to jail for it in America.)
     
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    I posted the legal definition of pedophile . I also posted the definition of child.

    It is possible of course that not all US states use the same definition That is what is great about America.

    I also posted evidence that 11 and less can be the age.
     
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    Not just abused. Sexualised in any way .. and that includes parents talking about it as though it's unavoidable - in the belief that it's 'education'.
     
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    Again, it's not always a result of abuse. It's just as often a result of neglect, or far too much information - too young.
     
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    So you say FORCING them to have an abortion would be evil...

    So you are now Pro-Choice?
     
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    Only when it's the right choice.
    As Henry Ford used to say, "You can have any color as long as it's black".
     
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    Duh, Ford was being funny, he was making a joke.

    There is no "choice" when there is only one option.....I see you STILL haven't looked up the word "CHOICE"...it's in all the dictionaries and on the internet...
     

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