13 Russian nationals indicted for interfering with U.S. elections and political processes

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

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    And that this announcement was made by the Deputy AG adds an importance to the event it doesn't deserve.

    There are subversive organizations throughout the democracies which support groups such as Antifa, BLM, OWS, and the "Women's March" supported by Linda Sarsour and CAIR - just to name a few. In a free society these protests are to be expected; however citizens should also be sophisticated enough to understand that many of these protests are supported by foreign entities. The giveaway is generally those which attack people personally, ad homs, or those which try to separate people through racial, financial or religious methods.

    Russia has been involved in the internal politics of other countries since the 1920's so Rob Rosenstein making a grand announcement that they had also been involved in this one should not have surprised anyone. It's all a deflection from what's really going on.
     
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    And they were among the 14 million people 'posing as Americans'.
     
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    This investigation may go on further but for right now IMO I think this is nothing more than throwing out some crumbs too satisfy the media because Mueller and his team have found no collusion of Trump at present. I think it's to save face.

    Are you not sure the video, if there is one, isn't Alex Baldwin. ?
     
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    Are you one of the Russians they didn't catch? What's with the misinformation campaign?
     
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    Теперь, когда я вернулся, вот что я думаю о людях, которые думают, что их правительство и его агентства могут помешать другим поддержать кого и что им нравится. Удачи с этим приятелем.
    Teper', kogda ya vernulsya, vot chto ya dumayu o lyudyakh, kotoryye dumayut, chto ikh pravitel'stvo i yego agentstva mogut pomeshat' drugim podderzhat' kogo i chto im nravitsya. Udachi s etim priyatelem.

    Now that I am back, here is what I think about people who think that their government and its agencies can stop others from supporting whom and what they please. Good luck with that pal.
     
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    :roflol:LOL!
     
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    If the russians could hack the poll results they would have thrown the election to Bernie the ex commie

    Maybe the.most damaging info about hillary came from podesta and the DNC s server

    Neither if which the russians are accused of doing
     
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    I concur.
     
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    So far, the only ones who have fallen for Russian interference are the Democrats, with their purchased fake dossiers from the Russians.



    While, SLAVERY is the result of Obama's "Foreign Relations" in Libya:
     
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    Awesome. So what is Putin's response? Or doesn't he care?
     
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    To me it is hilarious to see The Big Bad Wolf fretting over the little bear. I guess this is the elephant and mouse routine. . .
     
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    Oh my God, these Russians. Here they are interfering in our 'democracy', while at the same time blocking the 'reforms' we are conducting in their own country with our NGO's. And even worse, their propaganda has caused 90 countries to stop the reforms of our NGO's. For heavens sake, those regime changes are for their own good. What kind of people are they?
     
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    Немецкая семья бежит Секс-сумасшедшая Германия для семейного отдыха Россия
    Nemetskaya sem'ya bezhit Seks-sumasshedshaya Germaniya dlya semeynogo otdykha Rossiya
    German Family Flees Sex-Crazed Germany For Family-Friendly Russia
     
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    Водка с Рассолами
     
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    I looked this up some time ago so may be fuzzy on the exact date but I believe it was in 2013 when it became legal for our intelligence services to create and disseminate propaganda on US citizens in the US. (prior to this it was allowed only for external purposes).
     
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    Before 1973 it was the job of J. Edgar Hoover's FBI to spy on Americans. How do you think Nixon was taken down? (Mark Felt) Well Hoover thought it was his job, It was illegal what Hoover was doing.

    It seems under Obama the FBI got back into spying on Americans again.

    Kinda scary.

    The CIA spying on American citizens is a no no.

    But over 10% of America's population are made up of non citizens who under Common Law and Natural Law (Law of Nations) still hold their loyalty to their motherland where they came from.

    But lets remember that back in the early 1970's the liberal Democrats castrated the CIA so they could no longer do their job of keeping America safe.

    When you read the 9/11 Commission Report they say there's enough blame to spread all around just not going back to the Jimmy Carter administration but the liberal Democrats in Congress in the early 70's.
     
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    As the Mueller's witch hunt confirmed yesterday, the Russian's meddling was backing Bernie big time.
     
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    Я никогда не употреблял алкогольные напитки, а тем более с соленьями.
    YA nikogda ne upotreblyal alkogol'nyye napitki, a tem boleye s solen'yami.
    I do not nor have I ever consumed alcoholic beverages, much less with pickles.
     
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    I suspect the russians were all for bernie but the lib news media wants to avoid reporting that
     
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    The bottom line here is that there is no significant external threat to the Homeland. In fact the biggest threat is from lone wolf terrorist actors and not nation states - and we have had these for decades.

    What then necessitates taking away our liberty over fear of external threat ? Where is this massive enemy massing on our borders such that we need to cower in fear "begging" to give up essential liberty over fear of this external threat.

    The reality is that we have never been safer from external threats. When the wall fell and the cold war ended, this created a big problem or the military industrial complex. There is not much money to be made for the military industrial complex and international financiers (bankers) in times of peace.

    The reality is that it is the US that has been going hard trying to re-ignite the cold war and the job of our Media (owned by these same international financiers) is to manufacture fear.

    So where is this massive scary threat to our security and liberty. Should we be on our knees begging to give up essential liberty over a risk of harm that is 400 times less than the risk of harm from "Walking" ?

    What happened to "Give me liberty or Give me Death" ? How did we go from there to "It is our Patriotic Duty to give up essential liberty" ?

    Ramping up the "fear factor" has been very profitable. In 2000 Total Military Spending was roughly 300 Billion.

    After 8 years of fear mongering during the Bush administration TMS exceeded 900 billion and went over 1 Trillion under Obama.

    Had we maintained 2000 spending levels (increasing with inflation) - more than enough to defend the homeland from the scary boogyman, we could have diverted 500 Billion x 16 years = 8 Trillion dollars
    to infrastructure, technology and ramping up our economy to compete in the 3rd millennium.

    Instead we threw this money down the toilet by fighting useless wars which had no purpose but to fill the coffers of the international financiers.

    Interest on our debt is 450 Billion/year. Over 16 years this is another 7 Trillion that can be added to the total.

    What is our plan now ? Increase military spending further ! For what purpose ?

    I do not mean to only rag on the MIC. The healthcare oligopolies (also owned by the international financiers) are another massive problem. Then we also have the other oligopolies (Energy, Food and so on)..... and the fact that the people are kept in check by the fact that the MSM is also owned by the international financiers .. an MSM which spews state propaganda day in day out to keep the raging masses in line.

    This is not some Orwellian fantasy of the future.... this is right here ...right now.
     
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    I assume it's laughter and contempt at the stupidity.
     
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    What is unbelievable is what they are trying to teach children in Germany. I know there was a family in Germany that wanted to home school and the government wouldn't allow it. They finally came to the US. Let's see though how long before the government starts trampling on our own religious freedoms. They're starting to do it now with the Christian baker who refused to make a cake for a homosexual marriage.

    This is why Putin has invited and is giving free land to all Slavs and ethnic Russians who want to retain their religious and traditional values. The invitation though should include converts as well - there are quite a few in the US.
     
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    They tell me that the DOJ is going to do more investigating of social and political forums searching for those who may be co-conspirators of the Russians who foment false information. Why is it I feel like your name is on the short list?
     

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