2 more fatal falls at Grand Canyon follow dozens of others

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  1. Spooky

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...w-dozens-of-others/ar-BBVUv3D?ocid=spartanntp

    I really wish you people would quit coming to my state and leaving your corpses lying around. If this keeps up I may have to close my park to foreigners.
     
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    Selfies are getting lots of people kicked. Lots.
     
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    Over 12 years ago, my emt partner was a former emt from there.

    They have been dying there for a long time, I suspect.
     
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    Maybe they're not all suicides - maybe some are like me; when I'm on a high place I have to turn around and retreat asap because I feel myself being inexorably drawn toward the edge. :eekeyes: I think it's quite a common thing associated with vertigo.

    I even feel a bit woozy looking at the pic in the OP.
     
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    There is a certain spot I like to go out and sit, right on the edge.

    When the wind blows even a little bit you can feel it pushing you.

    I did the same thing in Yosemite, had a spot right next to the waterfall.

    I find it's the best place to clear my mind when I pray.

    I haven't fallen yet but because I'm careful, if you are going to jump the rail and be an idiot to get a pic....well......don't do it.
     
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    So if you posts suddenly stop, we can all make a fairly good guess as to why they have? :eyepopping:
     
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    I've seen people do some very dangerous things things there. It goes on every day. Not surprised people are dying. They are careless and love the crazy selfies.

    Lots of tour groups from around the world can be seen there almost on a daily basis in the warmer months and even on the holidays. Especially the Southern rim.
     
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    I have been there. It technically is not a part of the US, it is an Indian reservation. The tour guides told us that we were on our own out there and if we fell we or our families could not sue.

    I walked out on the Sky Walk but stayed away from the edge of the canyon where other people were. If someone slipped they would grab the person next to them.
     
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    Maybe a short physics film on gravity before they walk out there?
     
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    One thing people fail to factor in is that the Grand Canyon has a strong attraction to some people that are suicidal.
     
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    If you played outside as a kid, climbed trees, played sandlot ball, hiked and paddled, etc., you have a big advantage over those who grew up inside with their faces in their devices all the time -- or a big advantage over older folks with their faces in devices all the time who lost their edge.
     
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    Chicago can provide the same results.
     
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    That has nothing to do with the OPs statement about CORPSES ( ""I really wish you people would quit coming to my state and leaving your corpses lying around. If this keeps up I may have to close my park to foreigners.""")

    nor does it have anything to do with my post:

    FoxHastings said:
    Uh, people from Santa Rosa, California are foreigners??? What?
     
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    So does the Golden Gate Bridge.
     
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    Yes it does. Lots of people come from foreign countries every year to see the Grand Canyon. The man who fell was from Hong Kong:

    A helicopter lifted the body of the Hong Kong man from 1,000 feet (305 meters) below the rim Thursday afternoon at Grand Canyon West, a popular tourist destination on the Hualapai reservation outside the boundaries of the national park, spokesman David Leibowitz said. His identity hasn’t been released.

    The fall happened earlier Thursday when not many visitors are at Eagle Point, a remote site best known for the Skywalk, a horse-shoe shaped glass bridge that juts out from the canyon wall. The rim has some ledges and outcroppings below but no barrier between tourists and the edge.

    What don't you get about this? Or did you mistake the country of origin and not actually look for and read the story? Foreign Nationals are falling to their deaths, not just Americans. Read the WHOLE story.

    Also:

    Meanwhile, authorities at Grand Canyon National Park — about 95 miles (153 kilometers) east — were working to identify a person believed to be a foreign national. A body was found Tuesday evening in a wooded area south of Grand Canyon Village away from the rim, the park said.
     
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    I find glen canyon from my boat far more awe inspiring than the Grand Canyon from the rim.
     
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    I love Zion and Bryce Canyons in Utah. Awe inspiring as well. But hiking in the Swiss Alps was still my favorite. Awe inspiring to see those tiny villages so far down there.
     
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    FROM THE OP:

    PHOENIX — Two recent deaths in which men plummeted in the Grand Canyon follow dozens of apparently accidental fatal falls since the national park was established 100 years ago.

    Michael Obritsch, of Santa Rosa, California, died April 3 after falling from the edge of the South Rim in Grand Canyon Village, near the Yavapai Geology Museum.

    His body was found 400 feet (more than 122 meters) below the rim, according to park officials.

    No amount of signage, railings or even verbal warnings will be enough to end the falls, said Michael P. Ghiglieri, author of "Over the Edge: Death in the Grand Canyon."

    Sixty-four fatal falls have been recorded in the park's history, Ghiglieri said. Forty-nine of the victims were male and 15 female. Many deaths involve someone going around a guardrail to get closer to the edge or accidentally driving off the rim."""""




    FoxHastings said:
    That has nothing to do with the OPs statement about CORPSES ( ""I really wish you people would quit coming to my state and leaving your corpses lying around. If this keeps up I may have to close my park to foreigners.""")

    nor does it have anything to do with my post:

    FoxHastings said:
    Uh, people from Santa Rosa, California are foreigners??? What?
     
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    Alledgely, he was called Wai So Dim.
     
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    and from Hong Kong....

    A helicopter lifted the body of the Hong Kong man from 1,000 feet (305 meters) below the rim Thursday afternoon at Grand Canyon West, a popular tourist destination on the Hualapai reservation outside the boundaries of the national park, spokesman David Leibowitz said. His identity hasn’t been released.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    FROM THE OP:

    PHOENIX — Two recent deaths in which men plummeted in the Grand Canyon follow dozens of apparently accidental fatal falls since the national park was established 100 years ago.

    Michael Obritsch, of Santa Rosa, California, died April 3 after falling from the edge of the South Rim in Grand Canyon Village, near the Yavapai Geology Museum.

    His body was found 400 feet (more than 122 meters) below the rim, according to park officials.

    No amount of signage, railings or even verbal warnings will be enough to end the falls, said Michael P. Ghiglieri, author of "Over the Edge: Death in the Grand Canyon."

    Sixty-four fatal falls have been recorded in the park's history, Ghiglieri said. Forty-nine of the victims were male and 15 female. Many deaths involve someone going around a guardrail to get closer to the edge or accidentally driving off the rim."""""




    FoxHastings said:
    That has nothing to do with the OPs statement about CORPSES ( ""I really wish you people would quit coming to my state and leaving your corpses lying around. If this keeps up I may have to close my park to foreigners.""")

    nor does it have anything to do with my post:

    FoxHastings said:
    Uh, people from Santa Rosa, California are foreigners??? What?



    That does NOT refute one word of my post.
     
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    99% sure they were doing something idiotic and against the rules,

    Darwinism in action
     
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