2 Things Mainstream Media Didn’t Tell You About FDA’s Approval of Pfizer Vaccine

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Obviously!
     
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    Obviously!
     
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    Never! They will take it to grave with them, literally!!!
     
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    https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...s-emergency-use-authorization-chloroquine-and

    There are AT LEAST two problems with the Trump promotion of hydroxychloroquine:
    - it doesn't work.
    - the idea of politicians promoting unapproved drugs is just plain wrong. Western medicine follow a process of drug testing, and public policy regarding those drugs is guided by science, not politicians. The very idea of politicizing medical decisions as Trump REPEATEDLY did is an undercutting of science based medicine to the detriment of the population - not just for the specific drug, but ALSO for all medical decisions going forward. The move toward defeating science based medicine in favor of homeopathy is a MAJOR problem.


    Besides that, Trump had a financial interest in the company that makes all or most of hydroxychloroquine!!!

    He compromised US health for personal gain.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you trying to prove that point? Maybe you should quit living in a covid fear mongering bubble and expand your horizons.
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet the only vaccine available is the unapproved version under EUA. That is the only available Pfizer vaccine.
     
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    You keep spouting this.

    But, you have NEVER given ANY evidence of it by citing a reputable source.
     
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    It's relatively simple. The only reason EUA is still in effect is because an approved treatment is still not available. Pfizer has gotten a name and approval for something but it is not available to the public. If it were made available for treatment of Covid then EUA would no longer be valid. That is how EUA works. It is only used if no other treatment is available. That is also the reason no other treatments have been approved by the FDA even though they have been used around the world successfully like Ivermectin in the province of Uttar Pradesh of India.

    I don't think you realize how much money we are talking about. Money talks and Pfizer is the 6th largest holding of congress critters.
     
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    You still haven't cited anything to confirm what you are saying.

    The FDA states that the pfizer vaccine, now branded with that weird name, is the SAME FORMULATION as what was earlier given an EUA.

    It is the formulation that has been given full approval. The name came AFTER full approval.

    Ivermectin has not been approved for use in conjunction with COVID, because there has been no clinical trial sufficient to meet FDA standards.

    Pfizer owned Trump. Trump made moves to ensure Pfizer got full patent ownership even though the USA paid for its development and testing.

    The result is that the US is majorly blocked from ensuring that third world countries can vaccinate their populations.

    https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/qa-comirnaty-covid-19-vaccine-mrna
     
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    For heavens sakes, read up on EUA.
     
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    The FDA has been crystal clear.
     
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    The EUA is not decided by the FDA.
     
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    The FDA issued the EUA for the Pfizer vaccine.

    https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...ng-emergency-use-authorization-first-covid-19

    FDA Commissioner Stephen M. Hahn, M.D. :
     
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    The FDA is allowed to make the decision to promulgate a EUA if there is a declared emergency.

    But, it is still the FDA that makes the decision on an EUA.

    HHS doesn't do that, as it is the FDA that has the direct scientific information to make a decision on exactly what the EUA authorizes.
     
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    Wrong again. It’s not the FDA’s decision.
     
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    Yes, HHS stated that there is an emergency. And, as I understand it, that was a necessary step in allowing the FDA to make a decision.

    But, it's still up to the FDA. It is the FDA's resonsitibility, as they are the ones who make judgements on what drugs and medical procedures get authorized.
     
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    Yes, I see that.
     
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    He keeps saying it because it is true.

    Humans in denial are unable to understand what's true and what's false. They are unable to tell the difference between a scientist and a snakeoil salesman. If it weren't so sad, it would be funny.
     
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    I cited a source that proves that what he claimed is absolutely NOT true.

    All pfizer vaccines for COVID are one specific formulation and they are ALL fully approved by the statement of the FDA - which is the ONLY body that approves medications.
     
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    well Joe looks and acts like a snake oil salesman and many scientist go for funding and will lie


    Why Scientists Lie -- and What to Do about It - American Thinker
     
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    The only FDA approved vaccine is Comirnaty for 16 and older but it is not available. If it were, all EUA would be null and void because an approved version of a treatment became available. That is how EUA works. Pfizer is still distributing Pfizer-BioNTech under EUA. EUA is only used for unapproved treatments when nothing else is available.
     
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    No, COMIRNATY and the EUA version are the SAME formulation and are used interchaneably.

    Suggesting that either of these is unapproved is just plain FALSE:

    https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

    The FDA states that they are the same formulation and are equally approved.
     
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    Pfizer-BioNTec Is completely under EUA and is the only one available. If the approved version were made available they would have to lift EUA for all vaccines. EUA is only used if an approve treatment is not available.
     
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    The FDA declared that there is ONLY ONE formulation and that the formulation is approved REGARDLESS of the authorization under which it was originally delivered for use.

    YOU have been claiming something substantially different from that.

    I'd like you to STOP suggesting that the Pfizer vaccine isn't approved, BECAUSE that is in direct opposition to what the FDA has stated.
     

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