2017 is the Second Warmest Year on Record

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  1. iamanonman

    iamanonman Well-Known Member

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    Just repeating what I posted in the other thread...

    Even your own reference computes to 0.03C of accuracy if you use the standard deviation to estimate the original error instead of actual error if you assume a sample size of 500,000 which is pretty common for a modern data assimilation system.
     
  2. _Inquisitor_

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    Just repeating what I posted in the other thread...

    When I say that RMSE is applicable for a multiple measurement of the same true value and is not applicable for calculating a mean of multiple true values I think anybody who is interested can look up RMSE and see and understand that.

    You can say whatever you want because you know nobody will look up or understand; that what is simple and easy for you and me is extremely difficult for others because others have no education.

    When I post a simple text book page telling basic step by step calculation of a mean of multiple true values you can say whatever you want, because you know, however the text may look simple and easy for you and me, it is extremely difficult for others who claim degrees in different fields, but in reality have no education.

    So you say whatever you want and have your special fan stirring psychosis.

    I don’t know how to deal with people blinded by their entrenched religious beliefs whether it is a belief in AWG, GW or no GW or something in between.

    They go on blogs and read all kind rubbish and bring it here.

    Who made up “climate sensitivity from CO2” – that denialist who “debunked” denialist’s Woods experiment?

    Have fun throwing knives at easy targets, they hardy deserve a respect.

    They come to express their feelings, but no to think, not to doubt, not to learn.

    I leave our “disagreement’’ at this just outlining a few points of it.

    1. All physical theories, all physical laws, all inventions ever invented are based on observation of phenomena either in nature or laboratory experiment.

    Since GW has no experiment demonstrating that CO2 absorbs more radiation energy from the sun during the day then it emits to the Cosmos during the night, it is no science, but a crazy religion, cult. That’s all what is needed be pointed to.

    2. All other things, like absence of definitions, fake terms, fake statistics, fake everything are secondary. Of course, calculating exact mean temperature of weather stations down to .01 degree is absolutely bogus and anyone who was just some education can see that, no reference is needed, but if somebody doubts himself he can refer to this textbook page:


    http://www.radford.edu/~biol-web/stats/standarderrorcalc.pdf


    but then scientists and experts say that there is “climate sensitivity from CO2” and they are experts though nobody can define climate less climate sensitivity.


    Have fan.
     
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  3. Ndividual

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    Dress properly to match the climate and weather conditions.
     
  4. _Inquisitor_

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    The winner of all discussions on the subje
    In order for me to dress properly for my morning run tommorrow would you please tell me what is the global weather forecast for tomorrow, -

    temperature _________________
    precipitation_________________,
    wind____________________,
    humidity_______________
    and where it can be observed_______________

    If it not so difficult for you to fill the blanks?

    Unless you agree that global climate is as idiotic as global weather and global weather is as idiotic as global climate.

    I hope I am not addressing an idiot.

    Do you agree?
     
  5. iamanonman

    iamanonman Well-Known Member

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    No, the global mean temperature will not help with the decision making process for how you dress. You need a local forecast for that.

    The global mean temperature is the defining metric for AGW and as such it is quantity that can be used to test predictions.
     
  6. _Inquisitor_

    _Inquisitor_ Well-Known Member

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    No to what?

    I asked:

    In order for me to dress properly for my morning run tommorrow would you please tell me what is the global weather forecast for tomorrow, -

    temperature _________________
    precipitation_________________,
    wind____________________,
    humidity_______________
    and where it can be observed_______________

    Why it has been so difficult for you to fill the blanks?

    Because the scientifically undefined term global climate is as idiotic as global weather and global weather is as idiotic as global climate.

    I hope I am not addressing an idiot.
     
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    I don't make weather predictions, I simply adjust to the conditions that are presented to me each day, compensating as determined necessary to provide an acceptable comfort level.
    Yes, I agree, my hope is often the same.
     

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