2021 Mayor of London

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Labour: Sadiq Khan


    Tory: Shaun Bailey



    I just looked at Shaun Bailey, he said he'd raise fares for public transport.

    He's not exactly winning me over.

    I voted for Sadiq Khan in 2016 because he was Pro EU and the Tory he beat was a Brexiteer. This was before the Brexit Vote in June of that year and I honestly thought it mattered, so I voted Sadiq Khan before voting to Remain.
    Now the UK (and London) have left the EU, I don't see this reason mattering now.
     
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    If London doesn't do something, then in a few months a council tax hike will be forced down London's throats or those free fares may go away.
     
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    I hate to say it, but I might vote for Sadiq Khan, unless the other guy continues that reduced council tax rate because of Covid. Feels like something like that is a 'Labour Thing' though, which is ironic, since you'd think they'd be pro tax hike being a more lefty side of the spectrum.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pretty despicable for Shaun, a white man, to wear blackface like that, especially during a campaign.
     
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    I think I've decided to vote for this guy since he's addressing all the right issues facing us today.
     
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    Re-elect the Muslim guy then. How much worse could things get anyway?
     
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    Is he addressing all the things that Brian Rose is addressing?

    • Knife Crime
    • Affordable Housing
    • Clean Air
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    I don't think he is; under his watch, fares have increased and knife crime has gotten out of hand, and affordable housing means multi million £ housing in Soho because it's relative and next to Mayfair and a little girl in Lewisham's death was linked to pollution from the South Circular Ring Road.

    I'm voting for this new guy since he hit the nail on the head addressing these key issues.
     
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    Bring all your kitchen knives and candles to the mayor's office then. And your fireplace pokers too. And take your vaccine like a good little boy.
     
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    I'd rather just give this new guy a chance.

    I've got the vote, I now know how I'm going to use it.
     
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    London is going to go the way of Chicago and Detroit. And those in the UK probably have no idea what that means.


    For those of you outside of the US, the US is a First World country but has many Third World cities.
    A lot of European tourists vacation to a big US city, wander off a little ways from the main tourist area, and are "surprised".
    A few go home in a body bag, because they didn't have the sense to know that wasn't a neighborhood you should have been walking in.

    Start expecting to see more fences going up all over the place and metal bars covering windows.
     
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    Knife crime. Can't have guns so criminals turn to knives. Get rid of the knives and you will have axe crime or archery crime or cricket bat crime. It isn't the tool. It is the criminal.
     
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    Well they could elect the American podcaster and find out.
     
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    In other words, if a politician doesn't hand something out for free you won't vote for him.

    You might not realize it, but that type of attitude doesn't even fully make logical economic sense. But countries like Iran and Venezuela know that will affect the vote and public opinion, so they sell petrol to their own people at greatly lowered subsidized prices.

    The question is, if you don't think the prices should be raised, then where is it you think the money should be coming from? Higher taxes?
    Should someone who rides a bus pay for it, or should someone else who does not use the bus pay for it?
     
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    London's already one of the most expensive places to live on Earth, finding low skilled work is hard enough before the cost to go to work increases in his pledge; this candidate isn't talking about knife crime or housing costs, he's talking about one end of the road he lives at being more value than the end he grew up on and promising to let everyone be able to copy him while threatening to raise our fares.

    He talks too much about British and the country, and not enough about London and our city too, he's not got my vote because he's not concerned about London as much as he ought to be.

    At least Brian Rose is happy to be in London and is mentioning problems that face us; knife crime epidemic, no affordable housing, and talks about London.
     
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55748037

    Wow, so many people running.


    Corbyn's brother/ew, f' no.

    We already had one independent Pinko Socialist Mayor and he made our buses run on Venezuelan oil.


    She's from my hometown and her name's London, I'm going to see if she can give Brian Rose a run for my vote.

    She too talks about housing costs and knife crime.

    Hmmm...

    She is from Croydon too...


    I'm so confused who I want, her or Brian.


    It's either Rose from California or London from Croydon.


    Now that's hard.
     
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    London has a murder rate less than one third that of the entire USA. Looks like the tool makes a difference.
     
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    It really doesn't. Any tool will do if there is enough will to kill. I would say that the U.S. has more murderers per capita than Londoners. to a large extent this is due to our abandoning the former practice of using insane asylums. There is a strong supply of crazy Americans.

    We have a tendency lately to want to make it policy to be good guys. Being a good guy is admirable. But it shouldn't be policy.
     
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    Right now, London Police are clashing with Women over it being a London cop who's the suspect in her murder, a young woman, 33, was abducted on her way home walking from Clapham Common to Brixton.
    Police also shut down her vigil over Covid and the police also had this suspect on public exposure a week before it happened; he lives out in Kent and her body was found near his house.
    Well, that was last week, this week, police clash over tensions over Covid, but last week, the Mayor of London and even the Prime Minister (former Mayor of London) called the Chief of London's police in for an explanation.
     
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    This was last week

    This week
     
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    Neil as a cop.
     
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    And the easier the tool makes it to kill the easier it is to kill. How many nations have anything like the per capita knife murders as the US has gun murders? Literally anyone can access a knife, and plenty of nations have poor mental health services, so there should be plenty. I won't wait for an answer (with actual data anyway).

    So the entire USA has a murder rate higher than one of the largest & most densley populated cities in the OECD because America doesn't have enough mental asylums? Funny, when I point out that Australia has a murder rate about a third that of the US it is apparently because we have a lower population density...or have fewer of 'those people'.

    Do you guys ever think about how mind numbingly stupid these excuses are, or do you just rote learn a list and work from it? I guess when the point is to just deflect uncomfortable facts anything will do.
     
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    Knife crime is blown out of proportion by the press IMO. There are probably more important issues for London. If that is what the other guy is making an issue of I'd be tempted to stick with Kahn.
    Things tend to work out best if you have a Tory government in Parliament and a Labour government in city hall.
     
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    I agree with that.

    No need to call me stupid. We like it the way it is. Just think of all the auto accident deaths we could save by banning cars. It boggles the mind.
     
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    Good, so we agree that guns are more dangerous and that people don't 'substitute' with knives anywhere near enough to create a comparable homicide rate. That is a start.

    I didn't. I called your argument stupid. It is.

    Great, just don't pretend that 'the way it is' has nothing to do with America having a homicide rate 3 times that of London.

    Do you get paid by the stupid argument or is this really the way you think?
     
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    I agree that guns are more convenient and less personal than knives as a murder weapon.



    I'm not going to respond to personal insults. Sorry.
     

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