20th Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq

It would have taken 6 months, lights, some 800 people, and a large presence to have the possibility to pull that off. But the catch is it would have been found out in a NY minute. 9/11 was not an inside job. We literally got caught with our pants down. Many of the things we see today is what IATA, the International Aviation Transportation Association was wanting in the US for years. Europe listened. Asia listened. Oh hell, even South America listened. We were complacent because we thought the two great oceans would protect us. Those "terrorist attacks" in hijacking planes would never occur here. At that time, the assault weapons ban was still in effect, and gun sales were not sold in the same manner as today. Most people felt safe even though they can walk up to the gate and all and not have a boarding pass. All 19 men came through Canada. The student visa program had serious loopholes in it that were exposed. And no one thought the unthinkable.

the military never trained for this scenario. So I can see that as a legitimate question either by the FAA or NORAD. The playbook was for terrorists to take over and demand some sort of ransom, and so forth. They did not do that. They changed the rules and used those new rules against us. But the statement you are referring to is not what it appears to be in your way of thinking.

 

Amen Brother! If I had not served in Uncle Sam's Army including a year in Vietnam, I would never have been able to see the big picture. Yes, the US Government is beyond corrupt.

 

Sorry Lady, as is so often the case you don't know what you're talking about regarding the events of 11 September. On a few random topics you are informed, but not on 911.

 

The US wasn't at war with the Soviet Union during WW2. When the Soviet Union collapsed and Warsaw Pact ended the US continued with the Cold War.

 

I do, so do engineers, so do a whole bunch of other people. 9/11, like December 7th, 1941, are two dates in American history where everyone living in the US knew where they were, what they were doing, when the attack happened or they found out about the attack.

But when it comes to an inside job, the government, the US government cannot keep a secret because someone will go to the Washington Post, the NYT, the Boston Herald, or the LA Times and give them the "scoop."

But we do know where all 19 terrorists came from, who they were, their families, their nationalities, and so forth. We also know that immigration in the north was more porous than the south. You could literally walk into Canada with a simple driver's license or birth certificate. Same for Mexico. And the Blue Commission pretty much showed all the flaws we had. If you can do reasearch in the mid 1990s in the IATA archives, even they were wanting reinforced doors on US airplanes in the cockpits at that time.

 

Never said we were at war with the Soviet Union. However, we got into war because of Nazism. We changed the villian from Nazism to Communism in 1946.

 

All the facts and evidence available contradict the official narrative that you promote. In an effort to be concise, the 911 Commission noted 60+ times that "we found no evidence" to support various elements of the false narrative you promote. If you really want to defend the false narrative, come visit at the appropriate thread in the CT section. I'll bet you won't.

 

So WW2 ended for the US. The Cold War was a separate war.

 

No he did not and no where in those quotes does he. We did invade for those reasons and the fact that he remained a serious threat vis-a-vis WMD. We did complete the inspections which UNSCOM total failed at yet you keep ignoring what we DID find. Blix would have inspected for another 10 years if given the job. It was a JOKE. Saddam simply hid things from them. Do you really think Blix could have searched out EVERY possible hiddng place and under those conditions that he alert where he wants to search. His last report to the UN was that Saddam was still not fully cooperating. That was the last chance.

But let me ask you this. If Saddam was not that threat, did not have any WMD why have inspections and sanctions at all then? Did you support dropping those and allowing him to do as he pleased?

You are thinking tangentally here Alwayssa. When the Dems got in trouble it was they who then realized they had to do a 180 and engage in the lies about Bush lying about Iraq and undermining our efforts there possibly costing us lives and treasure as it emboldened those who were fighting against us. I have already fully cited the security threat he posed not by citing Bush and the Republicans but by citing Clinton and the Democrats. You have yet to explain that.

 

On September 11, 2001 - there were more military and aviation training exercises on that day, than any day before or after in the history of the United States.

False flags, depending on what type of FF it is, will usually take place under the cover of "drills".

9/11 was years in the planning. The "terrorists" were put in place, and given room, board, etc. They were paraded thru airports and flown coast to coast to give them some background.

Actor James Woods was on one of those flights from NY-LA, and he called the authorities and identified one of them who eventually turned up in the attack narrative.

Too lazy to look up his name, but he was the "terrorist" that was livin' it up on cocaine and strippers in Florida (required of all fundamentalist muslims, lol).

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PS, they have a lot of the FAA and cockpit transmissions in this doc, plus a lot of the cell phone calls (which were technologically impossible in 2001).

But, the impossible was commonplace on that day, huh, lol...

 

I was not aware of there being more TX that day than ever before or since, thanks for that bit o' trivia. Yes, it was years in the planning. I read all the books at the time, Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert was particularly good, but IMO Christopher Bollyn offered the best chronicle of all the relevant facts and events. No doubt in my mind that Israel was pulling all the strings.

 

I haven't read either of those books, do they dig into Dov Zakheim much??

 

Yes, I think more by Bollyn than Ruppert. Bollyn was married to a Jewish woman as I recall, and was beaten by local cops in his own yard where he lived in Illinois. It's amazing he was never killed.

You probably know that Zakheim was a dual US-Israeli citizen and ordained Rabbi who served as Comptroller at the Pentagon in those days. Bollyn documented much, including PTech, Transtech Control Airfield Management and so much more. Christopher Bollyn

Check out his website.

Ruppert was a former detective as I recall, and writes like one. Much information about Vigilant Guardian and so much more.

 

Zakheim's fingerprints are all over 9/11.

For my money he was the operational lead. Very smart, calculating, organizational type. A lot of $$$ went missing under his watch at the Pentagon.

How convenient that the "plane" that hit the Pentagon hit the exact offices that were investigating the missing money?? Lol...

 

There are no facts or evidence. there are only innuendo, assumuptions, and estimates from the 9/12 truth movement. The 9/12 truth movement was the first mass modern conspiracy theory involving mass media. And since that time, it has perpetuated in the social media network.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/seven-resources-debunking-911-conspiracy-theories

 

And the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory rears its ugly head in this post.

Zakheim was former comptroller of the DoD. In real terms, he had no access or authority to pull this off in any way whatsoever. He was comptroller of the DoD, or in other words, a glorified bean accounter in public service. He held other government positions, but none of them in the Reagan administration gave him the authority to make this happen either. He

 

I take it you didn't read the links, did you Blues?

But yes, he and the GOP blamed Saddam Hussein, and even attempted to link Saddam to 9/11 and to terrorism, namely AQ. The GOP controlled both the House and Senate. It is how they got the 2001 and 2003 tax cut packages passed because of their overwhelming support.

The only person thinking tangently here is you Blues. YOu are trying to blame Democrats for everything while ignoring the elephant in the board, literally speaking, the GOP.

 

Even before WW2 ended, we were already trying to outsmart or outperform the USSR. During Potsdam for instance, when Truman received word about the success of the first test of the atom bomb, he tried to make that a surprise to Stalin. Problem is, Stalin already knew even though the Manhattan Project was above top secret. And one of the reasons why we used the Bomb on Japan was to show Russia what we were capable of. We had other reasons, but showing off the Russians was one of them, among saving US soldier's lives from an upcoming invasion and trying to shorten the war in the Pacific.

 

Noting time and marking date on calendar, I agree with you.

Here's the thing though, the Democrats voted to invade Iraq so they blamed Hussein too.

I know a lot of Iraqi immigrants who see it differently than our congress did. Hussein actually kept the Muslims who were bad away from the Christians who worked for the government and lived in Iraq, under control.

 

I never said anything about Israel, Judaism, or anti-Semitism. You're the one bringing it up.

As for Zakheim, you don't know anything about the guy beyond wikipedia - not exactly scholarly research

 

You're citing the CFR in debunking conspiracy theories?? You don't see the irony in that??

 

Zakheim had an interest in the Israeli company that modified about 24 Boeing 767 aircraft into the tanker role, as the Pentagon for years planned to replace the aging KC-135 and the KC 10 tankers. In about 2000 that company delivered those modified aircraft to USAF at MacDill AFB in Florida.

Lo and behold, the second aircraft to hit the towers was a modified 767 with external fairings visible that suggested tanker modification.

I checked Ruppert's book yesterday afternoon, and he too discussed Zakheim's role in several places.

 

I've never heard of the 912 truth movement until you mentioned it here. Might you offer a definition? I shan't hold my breath. I'm guessing it's an effort by the government to spread disinformation.

The larger point that you won't address is that all the facts available, both in the aviation angles and the structural engineering angles of the events of the day CONTRADICT the official narrative which you defend. For you narrative to be true, numerous laws of physics and aerodynamics must be violated. Sorry lady, your dog does not hunt.

 

Yes I read the links perhaps you should have and then you would see they do not say anywhere that Bush or anyone in his administration claimed Saddam was involve in the 9/11 attack or blame him for it.

You can try again if you want with some other cites but those certainly do not. And stop falsely posting that I "blamed" Democrats, I did nothing of the sort. I quoted them.

And yes thankfully they got the 2001 and 2003 tax rate cuts because we had great economy and soaring record tax revenue increases and a paltry $161B deficit as a result.

 

Bush never did link Hussein to 9/11. He and his administration openly admitted they had no intelligence that would tie Saddam to 9/11.