3 Coastal California Communities Sue Oil Companies over Sea-Rise

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  1. Tim15856

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    http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/west/2017/07/19/458045.htm

    From the idiots on the left coast, what do you expect. Like one of the comments said, let's see what happens if companies stopped shipping all gas, oil, and other fossil fuels to the state.
     
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    I have news for them, the seas are not rising, they're receding because of the expanding earth... that's why ports have to be dredged continuously. The lands are sinking in certain areas like Venice because water is being pumped out of the ground for commercial enterprises. California has the same problem because of the drought.

    They don't have a case against the oil companies because it's something that cannot be proven. In New Jersey for instance, there is new beach front land as the sea recedes, and the state is selling it to developers at an enormous price.
     
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    Venice is sinking because it was built on barely visible islands in the middle of a bay that has since been filled in over the centuries, it is sinking because that is what happens when you build on land with a high water table. It has nothing to do with pumping ground water, Venice sits in an estuary fed by the river and the ocean. It was founded by people fleeing Attila the Hun way back in the early Dark Ages.

    As for the case itself, it will likely go nowhere but it does make a point that needs to be made. Coastal communities are at risk due to climate change.
     
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    How about the rest of us get together as a class and sue the sea side CA cities because of the risk their residency there produces to the rest of our insurance rates? They are the most likely to incur damage, and frankly that just isn't fair to the rest of us.
     
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    You better include most of Florida, Manhattan, New Orleans and the Jersey shore in that counter suit.
     
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    done.
     
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    If the sea level is not falling, then why is the ancient port city of Ephesus six miles from the sea? Anyway I agree with this Guy... so stop worrying. As the earth get larger, the sea recedes.

     
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    As for New Orleans, the land is opening up under the Mississippi River, so it's sinking as the river gets wider. Our country is splitting in two... as is Africa around the horn. As per the video I posted, Manhattan and the Jersey shore have no problems. And as for Miami, who knows? Maybe it's being weighed down by the apartment buildings. :lol:
     
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    In one sentence you say the earth is expanding and then you say the lands are sinking in Venice. Which is it? Also ports are not dredged continuously because of expanding earth, they are dredged because the tides and currents cause the bottom of the ocean to continually move.
     
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    It sure seems strange that, even though there is ocean water on every coast in the world, only these 4 residents are getting flooded out. #seemslegit
     
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    From what I read before all this talk about climate change and rising sea levels, is that the problems in Venice were caused by industries pumping out massive amounts of groundwater from the aquifer beneath the lagoon. It was going on for 50 years before the government stopped the practice in the 1970s. In the last century, Venice has sunk by about nine inches.

    Here's an excerpt from one scientist who has observed things first hand..


    But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

    The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world".

    When running the International Commission on Sea Level Change, he launched a special project on the Maldives, whose leaders have for 20 years been calling for vast sums of international aid to stave off disaster. Six times he and his expert team visited the islands, to confirm that the sea has not risen for half a century. Before announcing his findings, he offered to show the inhabitants a film explaining why they had nothing to worry about. The government refused to let it be shown.

    Similarly in Tuvalu, where local leaders have been calling for the inhabitants to be evacuated for 20 years, the sea has if anything dropped in recent decades. The only evidence the scaremongers can cite is based on the fact that extracting groundwater for pineapple growing has allowed seawater to seep in to replace it. Meanwhile, Venice has been sinking rather than the Adriatic rising, says Dr Mörner.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html
     
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