30 Percent of Republicans Say True Americans May Have to Resort to Violence to Save U.S.

like the riots in DC on inauguration day of 2016?

Remember those? Bet not.

 

As I said, - that is how petulant children behave.

 

The cause of what people speaking their mind the first amendment is the cause of that.

 

And that is a good thing, We are a FREE country, where all sorts of diverse opinions and viewpoints are supposedly not only tolerated they are encouraged. The thing that bothers me about the statement under discussion is that it speaks of "True" Americans implying that they are all of just one kind, and to be dealt with violently if they are not. That sentiment is profoundly anti-American at its core and will be our undoing if we let it.

 

The similarities are striking.

Attempting to overturn a democratic election and Trump's xenophobic rhetoric.

When you replace 'illegals' with 'Jews', Trump sound like Joseph Goebbles.

I could spend hours explaining to you the difference between Trump and Biden on the instrumentalization of violence for political purposes.

But it is obvious that your level of ideological intoxication is too advanced.

Biden is not using BLM or Portland rioters to attack the pillars of American democracy.

Trump is using MAGA to become an autocrat.

That's the reality.

 

I can’t express how utterly and completely moronic it would be to resort to violence. It would destabilize our economy, cause hunger and loss of jobs, and it would end with the constitution being redrawn or eliminated all together

 

When you’re sitting there wondering who destroyed America, wonder no longer. It was you.

 

I saw this on Yahoo the other day and figured it would migrate here sooner or later. It's simply propaganda.

 

Hitler pacified Germany by neutralizing his opponents as did many dictators. Is that what you're suggesting?

 

Destroying the crappy version of America that you want is the goal I never wondered that was the purpose.

I'm glad the Doom is solidified in your mind.

 

Dodge and clutch all you want. There is a lot of negative things about the Dem party...you don't have to make unsubstantiated and made up claims!

 

After the 2020 election I heard more people talk about a civil war and martial law with some weird sort of excitement than I care to admit. Almost as if they were romanticizing the idea.

I would tell them what would happen to the food supply chain (I love to study economics and most listen) but the replies I would get were asinine. “I’ll get my food from hunting”, “ I have a freezer and dry food storage”, “I will trade for my silver collection”. The list goes on.

people really don’t understand how horrific it would be. With how many would hunt the wild life would soon run out. Even if you were successful whomever was in control of the power grid (the federal government be it democrat or Republican) would likely shut your freezer off by cutting the power to whoever is opposing them. Your dry food storage you may have to kill someone who wants your food storage and that someone may be your best friend. States will block traffic from other states depending on who they support (hell, California try’s to do that now). If you think something like this will be peaches and cream you’re out of your mind and will know it the first time you see your kids truly hungry.

 

The cancer is the deep state and Trump was voted in by the American people to clean it up - and only for that reason. We didn't think anyone else was strong enough to fight them. Yet in order to retain the status quo and the criminality and corruption in our government, Schiff managed to destroy Trump's presidency with the farcical Russia collusion and impeachment trials that continued for 4 years.

All Trump wanted was a verifiable honest election for the American people, which our Constitution calls for and I think the American people deserve. What the American people didn't want was a continuation of the corruption and criminality during the Obama administration.

What you're doing is condemning MAGA for what they might do in order to defend the American people, yet no condemnation for those who encouraged the violence which cost our nation billions and destroyed people's lives and livelihood.


Schiff:

I have to play to make my day.

So pay no heed to what I say.​

for lying cheating is my game.

But you all know that I'm insane,

so aren't you the ones to blame,​

for simple reasoning proves me wrong.

So shouldn't I be where I belong?

In the kooky house - Jeannette

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And yet......violence is resorted to very often.......

Given the extreme divisiveness in the country ;now......... and the mutual angst between the R's and dems........... this angst can lead to violence very easily.

There has been a cultural shift to increased aggression, nasty talk, loss of respect , and that is the petri dish for increased violence........

In reality: America has become a very violent nation........filled with hate talk,. prejudice and excessive party loyalty.......that seems t blind many t o seeing the bigger picture. It is also a culture that does not put much value on respect of other humans............ as the values are measured by which party one supports.........and which leader one "hates." Social media is a pathological environment for breeding and fostering this hatred and divisiveness....as well as narcissism. this all contributes to a social ugliness, and potential for violence.........as extremists are created and reinforced........yielding a cult mentality........this will gladly use their weapons to defend their ideologies

Given that there are more weapons than ppl.....in the country........ it is an explosion waiting to happen. The R's in particular are very low on tolerance but very gig on wanting power and Control...........


events like Jan 6 are likely t become more frequent.......... as the respect for law and order decreases.

 

No stats, if done correctly I actually trust. But political polls are rarely done in a scientific manner.
There's always some bias in them. IMO

 

Only have to unite the middle. Most people still reside there. But by a slim margin.

 

What would be the middle position on border security? Let's get together

 

Right, which is why I take this poll with a grain of salt.

 

I respectfully disagree with the notion that America has become a very violent nation. I am thankful I live now, that I live in the US, and that I am largely free to express my thoughts and opinions without repercussions.

if we are going to call out Jan 06, we need to call out the riots/looting/destruction by the far Left groups. If I lived in an area of the country where crime has spiked, in part to the “defund the police” narrative, I perhaps might share your view. But, I do not.

I think we give the extremists and thin-skinned way too much attention and value. Most people I know are moderate, left and right, and do not have time for kookiness.

 

How about this;

1) A properly funded Border Security force apparatus with a mandate centered on criminal activity along the border.

2) A refugee quota comparable (on a per capita basis) to other western nations with a mandate that applications have to be made at the nation of origin or a state bordering that nation. (By default however this would mean funding readily accessible offices in numerous locations across Central and South American where those applications can be lodged. It also means that the processing of applications has to be both transparent & reasonably expeditious (think months not years). The process also has to be widely advertised at least to start with. By default however no means no. So traveling up to the border and expecting to be accepted is not on the cards anymore.

So more expensive to run but critics can't claim the numbers being accepted aren't generous enough (well they can and will but if the program is on par with other nations a large chunk of their argument goes out the window). Nor can they argue that people can't easily apply.

3) A better labor visa program for the Agricultural Sector. The current one apparently has a poor uptake rate and American citizens have patently demonstrated they don't want to do the work at the rates being offered. So...

Start a new program with an initially low number of vacancies as a trial. All applicants are strictly vetted for criminal records get a 6 month working visa with no families allowed. In return they get mandated hourly rates and other related conditions but part of their pay is also held in trust by the Government until they leave when it is promptly remitted to their nominated account. If they breach their conditions they lose that money.

Sponsors who bring in non compliant workers get fined for a breach and banned if their rate of non-compliance is above average. And of course criminal charges are implicit for anyone deemed to be 'gaming' the scheme as a means of facilitating illegal immigration. Obviously the incentives are that playing by the rules and not causing trouble means the chance to come back in 6 months time and repeat the process, so there's a guaranteed income stream on the table for those who do the right thing and a guaranteed labor supply for the sector. If it works slowly and carefully expand the program to meet demand.

 

This is what happens when you listen to right wing media, its hate all day long.

 

Fix immigration laws. We need migrant workers, make the system open to them.
Go after illegal employers as much as illegal immigrants. Maybe more.

If they can find work, they will come.

 

In a democracy, the majority always ends up taking back its rights.

Do you want to live in an ultra conservative country where a minority imposes its will?

Move to Russia.

You'll never understand why Republicans have been in the minority in this country for 14 years and since Trump, your radicalization is widening the gap with moderates and Democrats even further.

 

It's not party issues that divides America, it's the social issues and it goes back to the courts and the liberal judges legislating from the bench. They created a divide in our country between conservatives who wanted a strict adherence to the freedoms given to the American people by our Constitution, and the liberals who prefer a strong Federal government to push forwards laws benefitting whatever agenda they advocated.

Contrary to what you might believe, or have been made to believe by the MSM, the violence always came from the left. To them it's their way or no way. I'll give you an example. When Trump won the election in 2016, the Democrats destroyed Washington DC as well as other cities.

They were organized events by leftist organizations. This is why the Supreme Court wouldn't take up Trump's case of fraud in the 2020 election. The judges were fearful of a repeat of 2016.

One of the reasons the government is so unjust and hard on MAGA and other conservative groups is not because of what they did, but what they might do in response to the insurrection and destruction by far left groups such as Antifa and BLM.

We have well armed militia groups in the US with trained vets as well as former policemen. The government though by being unjust and not being fair, is encouraging violence by the left and exacerbating the situation until there will be a violent response by the militias.

WASHINGTON, DC – In 2016, within days of Donald Trump’s election as President, riots broke out across the country. Tens of thousands of protesters appeared in Washington, D.C., New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle, Oakland, Boston, Portland, Philadelphia, Richmond, Dallas, Atlanta, St. Paul, and Pittsburgh.

Freeways were shut down by pedestrian “protesters,” effigies of newly-elected President Donald Trump were burned, vandalism was rampant, police were injured and hundreds of arrests were made.

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www.lawenforcementtoday.com/analysis-days-before-the-2016-election-riots-broke-out-coincidence/

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