44 Reasons Creationists Are Deceptive

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  1. Tuatara

    Tuatara Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how Noah and his family would collect all the microscopic species of animals? Especially the ones that have very short life spans.
     
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    With all of your rationalizations, you failed to put one more element into the picture. That element is an Omniscient and Omnipotent Creator. With His abilities, all of those little physical nuances would have been of no consequence to Him .
     
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    Creationists are already attacking this

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/soft-tissue-dinosaur-fossil2.htm
     
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    Well on the subject of spirituality the concept of truth doesn't exist. And morality is subjective.

    Who said I believe it is real?
    Well perhaps you should not have viewed a collection of spiritual parables passed down thousands of years, edited or lost completely as a science book.

    The consistency of science wins with me in scientific matters. The God I worship and how I worship is strictly a spiritual matter. Thus far science is completely void of spirituality.
     
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    But they are of consequence to all living matter on earth. The Laws of Nature do not get to be put on hold for your little stories.
     
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    I think you are taking spiritual text far too literally, much like a Christian fundamentalist.

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    How many miles of water was there above the surface of the ocean level in this mythical flood?
     
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    Perhaps...for those that did not survive... but then again you have to realize that they were not intended to survive. Now for the remainder who did survive... again... that Omnipotence and Omniscience could create whatever conditions that were necessary to insure their survival.
     
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    Read the article.

     
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    You seem to be the one arguing for the validity of the Noah's Ark story.

    In order to cover all the mountains the sea level would have to rise over 29,000 feet. Photosynthesis occurs only down to about 100 - 200 metres, and sunlight disappears altogether at 1,000 metres. 1000 metres equals 3280 feet. That's a far cry from 29,000 feet.
     
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    I did read...enough of the article. It seemed to be outdated. But I'm not sure what your point was. Of course scientists in this field are going to say that the only answer is the miracle so to speak of fossilization. Obviously.

    What is nice is that other scientists are grabbing on to this. Dinosaur bones are being sawed, splintered and its marrow extracted. Nice to see that not all the curiosity is gone. And Mary Schweitzer showed the way....she studied it and still survived. You just have to be very very careful in how you interpet the findings.
     
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    There has been many fossilized dinosaur skins found but I don't think any belonged to T-Rex. I think so far the skins belong to hadrosaurs (duck-billed dinosaurs)
     
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    You suppose so far the skins belong to hadrosaurs? Do you have any evidence that would lead you to that suspicion?
     
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    WellI am not a paleontologist. A person who spends their life studying fossils. But the paleontolgists who discovered the fossilzed bones of these Hadrosaurs along with the fossilized skin say they belong to the same animal. I'm quite sure their findings were peer reviewed and scrutinized maticulously by other paleontologists. I have no reason to believe that the paleontolgists are part of a massive conspiracy to conjure up fake findings that don't sit well with creationists.
     
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    This portion of the discussion is not about religion, and therefore, I find the subject interesting, as I have often wondered why Pterodactyls have been visualized as having skin such as is found on a modern bat as opposed to feathers like most winged animals. So, as a creationist, I find nothing disturbing about this conversation.
     
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    LOL Captain Kirk came down and helped poor old Noah ... That's a good one.

    The only logical explanation ! Aliens did it !!

    But Captain ..... I don't think that elephants going to fit ....
     
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    Don't worry about it... just beam ole Wayne Szalinski up and we can use his shrink ray to cause the Elephant to fit with no problem.
     
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    One thing for sure humans did not evolved from apes.
     
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    When did I make such an argument?

    I'm actually not arguing for the validity of the flood. I see it as metaphorical. Yet you said I did. When? Where? What post?
     
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    The link you posted regarding morons crying about other morons being morons mentioned protein sequences that suggest that it's t-rex skin. Did you even read it?

    I admit I became bored with it quickly because it was written by people more interested in crying than science, but it did talk about a particular fossil.

    Since I brought it up, why on earth would scientists or anybody waste a moment's thought on a backward lunatic that thinks fossils are placed in the earth by Satan, or conjured by heathen hordes? Who gives the slightest crap what these flat earth dwellers think?
     
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    I was asked to provide evidence that the story of Noah's Ark was a fairytale. I provided some and you questioned it at every turn. If I state that the water was too deep to support photosynthesis and you then question how deep, knowing full well that the level of water (in the flood) is way deeper than that level, that brings on the assumption that you do believe the myth of Noah's Ark or your knowledge of basic science is minimal. Because you already knew about phytoplankton I assumed you were arguing on behalf of the myth.

    I read through some other posts and you certainly gave that impression to others here.
     
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    The link I posted was a follow up to post # 98 which is about dinosaur tissue found in a fossilized bone. A T-Rex bone. I was then asked about fossilized skin in which I brought up that most fossilized skin had been that of the hadrosaurs.
     
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    Your assumptions aren't my argument.
    Shows you for assuming.

    You just confessed twice to assuming. Now I impressed upon people here because you made an assumption?

    You condescend to me and you can't even get your own story straight in your own post?
     
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    The link talked about YECs and waa waa waa.
     

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