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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That means nothing other than the U.S. has a lot of people who deserve to be in prison, which is yet another reason to allow the law abiding to be armed.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words you made that up, just like so much of the BS you have already posted.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again totally false, within 3 years over 1% those released for murder, murder again.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Incorrect, it is your fault and your fault only that you refuse to produce, truth is the time you waste here could be used to earn a living, but you don't want to, you would rather live off the wages of others while surfing the net.
     
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    Then perhaps it would be best to refrain from demonstrating the aforementioned conduct.

    And yet such does not require those tasked with the supervision to refrain from legal firearms ownership themselves, or otherwise ensure those their children associate with come from homes where there are no firearms present.

    Then why should they be taken seriously, or even listened to, when they talk about how society should function?
     
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    Factually incorrect. The reason the majority of these individuals are dying, is ultimately because they made the decision to end their own existence. They concluded that they no longer wished to go about existing, and as such took steps to bring an end to such.
     
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    Incorrect, in most states firearms can be provided to family members who are under aged, what they cannot do it fill out a 4473 until they are 18 for long guns and 21 for pistols.

    Literally, millions of children are given firearms as gifts and many of them hunt as well.

    One of my neighbors take both his 13 year old daughter and his 12 year old son with him when he goes hunting, the first time they went our his daughter bagged two wild boars which she got to help butcher once they got back home.

    Many firearm manufacturers such as Winchester and Savage build shortened stock rifles for the youth market, Savage offers rifle in .270 Winchester known as the Savage Hunter model 111FYCAK youth bolt-action rifle which is a very popular youth sized rifle.

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    And in Canada they let animals who have murdered little girls out of prison for for humanitarian and compassionate reasons.

    "The Parole Board of Canada says it approved Tooba Yahya’s request “for humanitarian and compassionate reasons,” because her risk of recidivism is low and because the security risk that the absence poses is “manageable.”'

    "Yahya, along with her husband, Mohammad Shafia, and son Hamed, were found guilty of four counts of first-degree murder in Kingston, Ont., in January 2012 in a court case that attracted international attention."

    "The bodies of the three Shafia daughters — Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13 — and Shafia’s first wife, Rona Mohammad Amir, were found in the family’s car, submerged in a lock on the Rideau Canal in Kingston on June 30, 2009."

    And you support that kind of activity, really?
     
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    Ah. You hate nature.
     
  10. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    1) Thank you. Even people who are much lower then me on Social Ladder have innate worth.

    2) I have Moderate Mental Disability -- thus I can. People with Severe Mental Disability usually can not.
     
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    Indeed, a few percent of murders are really heinous. 99% of killers do not re-offend once free.
     
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    US crime rate is not the highest in the World. US Incarceration Rate is.
     
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    Perhaps I am wrong. Do you have a citation?
     
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    My diagnosis is high functioning autistic, which is an Aspie.
     
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    This is a great sin. Enabling people to carry out such decision is as great sin.
     
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    Humans live in Civilization -- not Nature. Survival of Everyone is much better then Survival of the Fittest.
     
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    This is a common issue with gun banners: the attitude that they know what is best for others-better than those people themselves. Control freak syndrome permeates most gun banners
     
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    that doesn't mean they have value. some people are a net negative to society. whether they are warehoused or shot, it matters not. Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, etc have no positive value to society other than perhaps for being studied to see what causes their issues. I'd have no problem shooting someone like Bundy if he were to attack my wife, The only thing that might stop me is that she probably would kill him before I could
     
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    There are more than two choices. some people are better off not surviving.
     
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    What I do with my life, live it or decide to leave it is my decision, the ultimate expression of my individual liberty, and not in your or anyone else's purview.
     
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    The majority of individuals in the united states who legally own firearms manage to refrain from engaging in negligent discharges, criminal assault, or even ending their own existence with a firearm. Why should they be punished for something that they have not done, in the name of protecting those who are dedicated above all else, to ending their own existence because they are tired of existing?

    The united states recognizes a separation of church and state. If it were to try and restrict firearms in the name of preventing supposedly sinful acts, it would be declared unconstitutional for being a breach of this separation. Therefore the united states government is legally obligated to allow these suicides to continue unabated on the basis of it being considered a sin.

    Come up with a new argument to put forward.
     
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    And yet it is an accepted fact of reality that not everyone actually can survive.
     
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    Try something called Google.
     
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    Most people with Severe Depression can not know or care whats best for them.
     
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    Perhaps this may be true for the worst killers. Very few released killers kill again.

    But to apply this logic to normal people who can not produce is beyond inhumane.
     

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