60% of Germans; Zionism is genocidal.

Israel must conscript women to fight its wars. While a growing number of Israeli men avoid military service on religious grounds.

Of course this does not stop Israeli apologists from accusing their enemies of hiding behind women and children.

 

I see where you're coming from, but there's still a big difference between choosing to put yourself in the line of fire and being a bystander that's forced into the line of fire by others.

 

What is your point?

Is Holocaust the religion of Americans?

BTW, if you deny the Holocaust, committed against Native Americans, will you also lose your job?

You ignored the most important part of my post. What about the international law and the return of refugees to their homes?

 

No, but it is the main tool that many Zionists use to convince gullible American Guilt Complex members to stand behind Israel. This can be seen with all the claims of "anti-Semite, anti-Israel, anti-Jew, anti-Zionist, etc". It is very important for many Zionists that Americans can be scared into believing that that the most heavily armed nuclear nation in the world (Israel) is being hated and threatened by everyone, since nothing else is capable of enabling illegal settlement expansion activities to persist.

Some German politicians seem to be suffering from a similar problem:

Deutschland muss Israel beistehen
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/meinung/...eutschland-muss-israel-beistehen/6199354.html


It is sad that Germany is being forced to honor and defend the very racism that it actually wants to stand up against.

 

Well, Germany is even forced to commit new crimes and it is possible that after USrael loses its absolute power over Germany, the Muslims will demand from Germans reparations for supporting an apartheid regime, called Israel.

Yes, it is really sad, but what can Germans do?

Germans see the world through the Zionist glasses, because the Western Media is almost totally controlled by the Israel Lobby.

And many Zionists pretend to be Germans and they speak in the name of Germans, and other Germans believe that these shills are really "ashamed Germans", and imitate their behaviour.

In reality these "Germans" will support any crimes, committed by Zionists against the native Semites of Palestine.

We have such shills in this forum, but I will not name them...

They are waging a psychological war against the "Otto Normalverbraucher", but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

 

It doesn't even stop there. Years ago when I was posting at IsraelForum.com, some Zionist extremists stated that they will harm anyone who steps in their way and that they felt that they had the right to use the Holocaust as a weapon. They said that "Never Again" means, in their view, taking every effort to defend Israel even if it means causing a genocide. Fortunately, these were just minority voices not supported by most Jews, but it saddened me that not more people were standing up against such extremism.

 

Well, if somebody believes that the lives of Jews are more valuable than the lives of non-Jews, then he is a racist.

Most Jewish racists pretend that they fight racism, that is why some non-Jews cannot see that they are dealing with racists.

 

I guess it would depend on your employer.

Still, if you can't tell the difference between the government punishing someone vs. public reactions to things, then I really have nothing more to discuss with you on this.

It takes a minimal amount of logic to realize that social pressure is completely different from the state actually getting involved.

Take that up with Israel. I'm not exactly a fan of them myself, but I can't say that I sympathize with either side.

 

Most Europeans feel the Israelis are on par or worse than their Palestinian neighbors. These are countries with educated populations with political institutions far less dominated by special interests than say the US so I dont think they should be dismissed. Regardless though, such views do not change the responsibilities of both Israelis and Palestinians to stop and take responsibility for their crimes and individually carry out the programs necessary for peace - independent of each other and the usual attacks on one another as excuses for inaction.

 

The Palestinians are trying to drive out the nazis, as were the French. The 'crime' accusation is equally dubious in both cases.

 

Israel can wipe the Palestinians out in a few days. If A genocide was they're goal, you'd think they would've done it a LOOOOOOOOOONG time ago. Hitler certainly didn't take his time. Why has Isreal stretched this war on for so many decades? It makes no sense, which is why those who believe it make no sense either.

At least many Palestinians and certain countries have stated numerous time and are up front about it. They elect a terrorist organization bent on killing every Jew. Iran's leaders have made it quite clear the want Israel wiped off the earth. No real confusion there.

Its just so odd that a country bent on genocide and has the means to do it very quickly, keeps doing all these things to help the people they're trying to wipe out even when their hands are bitten over and over again. How VERY confusing??

 

As you know, they depend totally on the Mother Country to subsidize them and prevent their being brought to justice: they are killing as many as they can get away with, as you very well know. There can be no terrorist organisations in countries illegally occupied by nazis, as you also know - they have the right to free themselves by whatever means are available, while the nazis have no rights. As you know, Hitler didn't start murdering Jews till he'd begun a war: the nazis occupying Palestine are working very hard on that, as everyone knows. When did you join the office then?

 

Religion is a good word to describe the holocaust. Not everyone believes in these fairy tales.

 

Are you neo-Nazi or something?

 

Not everyone wants for genocides to be recognized as being what they were.

This is true, while most people regret the loss of innocent lives.

 

They were not murdered. They were killed. Collateral damage, as it were.

 

Which court defined that the killing of the innocent was not murder?

 

The reaction of what "public" are you talking about?

The reaction of the Israel Lobby?

Well, this lobby controls your government.

To punish people American government extradites them to another country, were they are tortured and imprisoned.

 

They (children, old women) were murdered in cold blood, because the civilians were consciously targeted.

In fact, they were the only targets in Dresden.

There were no other targets.

 

Correct. The fire-bombing of Germany was an exercise in raw genocide- war crimes all.

 

The Isreali Lobby doesn't control everything here. I know a lot of people at this forum seem to believe that, but it's absurd.

It really has more to do with the fact that Holocaust deniers are rightfully seen as nutjobs.

 

If you want to call that a genocide, so be it, but that means that every power in WW2 committed them.

WW2 was a total war. Civilians weren't spared by any side, because that's what it took to end the war.

 

AIPAC controls all your politicians, and will try to silence even an ex-President. What has this to do with people who deny Hitler's murders? That's just more AIPAC propaganda. How many people here deny those murders? Come off it!

 

Don't lose all correct definitions ,WW1 and WW2 were wars called Imperialist wars ,to divide and redivide the colonies and speres of influence between competing Capitialist Powers .

nothing to do with democracy or liberation of anyone but the capitialist class of the competing major Imperialist powers ,Britian,USA,France,Germany,Italy,Japan thats the List of Major players of imperialist capitialism.

Second divison ,Spain ,Netherlands

Third division ,Australia,Portugal,New Zealand .

yep, thats about all the Imperialist nations.

 

Germans hating Jews? Shocking!!