6th Circuit Reaches Conclusion on ‘Preferred Pronouns'

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Talon, Apr 9, 2021.

  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    46,755
    Likes Received:
    26,292
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm not sure if anyone has posted anything on this case and I apologize if someone has.

    Anyhow, here's another case concerning freedom of thought and speech on America's campuses. Do professors have to follow Woke speech codes?

    For now, the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled no.

    Here's the case and ruling:


    I see a lot of thorny and complicated issues here and it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I won't be surprised in the least if this case winds up on the Supreme Court's doorstep.
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2021
  2. dharbert

    dharbert Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2020
    Messages:
    2,262
    Likes Received:
    3,312
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There's nothing I would enjoy more than forcing a liberal professor to address me as Lord Marshall Puffinstuff every time they spoke to me or called my name...
     
  3. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    46,755
    Likes Received:
    26,292
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    LMFAO!! :applause:
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The 6th at one time would have ruled the opposite. I am pleased they finally follow law.
     
    drluggit and Zorro like this.
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,139
    Likes Received:
    19,387
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I identify as a dog. I felt this way ever since I was a puppy! I prefer to be addressed as "Whose a good boy?"
     
  6. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    46,755
    Likes Received:
    26,292
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    *pats "Whose a good boy" on the head and gives him a treat*
     
    Doofenshmirtz likes this.
  7. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Messages:
    34,707
    Likes Received:
    21,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You can't force people to address you in any specific manner. What is scary is that this made it to court in the first place.
     
  8. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,139
    Likes Received:
    19,387
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Who are you calling a "you"? I identify as a female sheep, so address me as ewe.
     
  9. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    29,311
    Likes Received:
    4,187
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Welp read that today.

    Anyways this is a stupid decision. Not looking forward to seeing what happens next.
     
    Derideo_Te and Burzmali like this.
  10. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    25,273
    Likes Received:
    1,633
    Trophy Points:
    113
    they cannot be called queens because America defeated england.
     
    Talon likes this.
  11. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    25,273
    Likes Received:
    1,633
    Trophy Points:
    113
    doctor fauci has earned it
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2021
    HB Surfer likes this.
  12. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How is it a stupid decision? A mentally ill person can not force someone else to call them a specific pronoun. That is a direct violation of the constitution. The court had no choice but to rule as they did, as the constitution precludes you from forcing me to call you anything other than what I want to call you.
     
    crank, Steve N and roorooroo like this.
  13. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    29,311
    Likes Received:
    4,187
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Show me where in the DSM it says trans people have a mental disorder for being trans.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  14. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2021
    dbldrew, AKS, joesnagg and 3 others like this.
  15. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    29,311
    Likes Received:
    4,187
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
  16. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They changed the name of the mental disorder.

    reality remains. If you believe you are something you are not, you are by definition mentally ill.
     
  17. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    29,311
    Likes Received:
    4,187
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    They said it was no longer a mental illness. Keep up with what the DSM says. A trans person is the gender they say they are.
     
    Derideo_Te and Burzmali like this.
  18. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    109,854
    Likes Received:
    37,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It’s sad that you’d even need to force anyone. I’ll call people by whatever pronouns they want. Really who gives a damn? Don’t be a dick.
    I get the men in women’s locker rooms or sports arguments. I don’t get this one. Play along, be nice. Who’s it hurt?
     
  19. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    no they didn’t. They renamed it.

    The DSM says otherwise. So does biology.
     
  20. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    29,311
    Likes Received:
    4,187
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    They had to remain it because... it was no longer considered a disorder. The DSM is a medical guide. Disorder means something. Gender dysphoria isn’t a disorder. And biology says trans people exist. Not my fault if science isn’t your strong points in your argument
     
    Derideo_Te and Marcotic like this.
  21. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is classified in the DSM as a mental disorder lol.
    The DSM says it is a disorder.

    biology says a man who thinks he is a woman, remains a man. No matter what body parts he cuts off, or how many hormones he takes. He remains a man. That is science. And reality. All of which directly refuted your position.
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2021
    Dutch, dbldrew, Louisiana75 and 3 others like this.
  22. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    29,311
    Likes Received:
    4,187
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Dysphoria isn’t a mental disorder lol, do you not know what dysphoria is?

    Then there are no male birds. What gender are they? Or the countless other genotypes out there? Or maybe your understanding of science is incredibly lacking.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  23. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I quoted the DSM, showing you it’s a mental disorder lol.



    uh, of course there are.
    You are either a male, or female, barring extremely rare genetic abnormalities. You can not like that all you want but reality does not give a ****. If you are born a male; you remain a male until you die. No matter how many hormones you take or body parts you cut off.
     
    Dutch, joesnagg and dharbert like this.
  24. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    70,793
    Likes Received:
    90,536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you think they're normal? When they have to invent special words to describe them, then they're not normal. That only leaves a mental disorder.
     
    joesnagg and dharbert like this.
  25. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    29,311
    Likes Received:
    4,187
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Lol nope. Dysphoria is simply a feeling about your body and mental state. You can feel dysphoric about your weight for example which compels you to lose weight. Perfectly healthy, no disorder. Same thing with gender.


    How? They don’t have male genes. They don’t have XY genes. They have ZY genes.

    Until you’re not because you’re a fictional character who we talk about as if they have those or don’t have those. How is Woody from Toy Story a guy?

    Yeah I think they’re pretty natural. Trans people are completely normal.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.

Share This Page